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Message started by John on May 2nd, 2004 at 10:09pm

Title: University of Surrey (Guildford) accommodation
Post by John on May 2nd, 2004 at 10:09pm

Does anyone know the geographic number for University of Surrey (Guildford) accommodation?
NTL run the halls phone service and use 0870 numbers  :'(
Thanks.


Title: Re: University of Surrey (Guildford) accommodation
Post by DaveM on May 4th, 2004 at 4:54pm
Have you tried getting someone there to call you to get the number they use ? If so, does it give you the 0870 number or a "number withheld" message ? :-/
I would assume then that all the UNI numbers are provided by NTL, in which case if you can get a list of the "Geo" numbers and check it against the list at the Ofcom website, you may be able to deduce the accomodation numbers from those in or around the sequence that are not used.
As it might be a longish job and take a few phone calls to check out those possible, I wish you Luck.

Don't forget to post your results if you find them.

Title: Re: University of Surrey (Guildford) accommodation
Post by Sam Albrow on Jun 10th, 2004 at 10:43pm
01483 xx

xx equals: 59 68 82 83 54 85 87 88

Allocated to NTL

Title: Re: University of Surrey (Guildford) accommodation
Post by smiley2005 on Sep 5th, 2005 at 7:34pm
Hi,

I tried them all, and none of them worked. If anyone has a better advice then calling a telephone box instead, contact me, please!

Thanks & Regards

Title: University of Surrey student accommodation
Post by siterly on Dec 1st, 2004 at 12:12pm
Does anyone know the geographic numbers for student accommodation on the Uni campus (numbers start 0870 282 xxxx)
I tried to phone from abroad but number is unobtainable. Uni tell me that its an NTL number and that there is no BT equivalent. BT tell me there has to be a BT number as NTL only re-route via their equipment!!!!!!
Any assistance would be appreciated as phoning a UK mobile from abroad is very expensive.
Thanks,

Title: Re: University of Surrey student accommodation
Post by jrawle on Dec 1st, 2004 at 12:42pm
By "BT number", I assume you mean geographical number.

Anyway, the following are allocated to NTL:

01483 59
01483 68
01483 82
01483 83
01483 84
01483 85
01483 87
01483 88
01483 00

Try those. However, if it's the last number, you'll probably only be able to call it from NTL lines.

Title: Re: University of Surrey student accommodation
Post by siterly on Dec 1st, 2004 at 1:43pm
Thanks, I will give these a try

Title: Re: University of Surrey student accommodation
Post by mmmmmm on Dec 3rd, 2004 at 3:14pm

wrote on Dec 1st, 2004 at 12:12pm:
Does anyone know the geographic numbers for student accommodation on the Uni campus (numbers start 0870 282 xxxx).


Funny that... numbers at Swansea University start 0870 282 xxxx as well.

However, the xxxx doesn't correspond exactly to your internal number - e.g. 79xxx is 6xxx.

Anyone have any suggestions for possible geographic numbers to these extensions?

Title: Re: University of Surrey student accommodation
Post by jrawle on Dec 3rd, 2004 at 9:51pm
Interesting! Well, I suppose that's why they call 0870 a non-geographical number. There's no reason why different numbers with the same code map to numbers in different locations.

I have a strange sense of deja vu - I'm sure I've looked up info on Swansea Uni before, but I can't find it in the forum now.

NTL have 9 numbers in Swansea:

01792 40
01792 41
01792 51 to 01792 55 inclusive
01792 60
01792 61

You might find the next digit is different too (seeing as it's already different depending on if you call from internally or externally). I'd try 9 and 6 first though. Hopefully you'll get number unobtainable so it won't cost anything to try them. Oh, and if you get through to the wrong person, ask them where they are - you may have found Surrey or another uni's number!

Title: Re: University of Surrey student accommodation
Post by siterly on Dec 4th, 2004 at 10:26am
Thanks jrawle, you have been very helpful providing this information. I will post details once I have been successful.
Cheers,

Title: Re: University of Surrey student accommodation
Post by smiley2005 on Sep 5th, 2005 at 7:31pm
Hi,

I tried all theese numbers, but none of them worked. My only advice is to call a telephone box.

Regards


Title: Re: University of Surrey student accommodation
Post by Dave on Sep 20th, 2005 at 10:30pm
I've just found this page on the Surrey system.

Quote:
For people to phone you from outside of campus
they must dial 0870 282 then
0 if your extension starts with 52
1 if your extension starts with 53
2 if your extension starts with 54

Following this they should enter the last three digits of your extension.

For example if your extension is 53249 then from outside dial 0870 2821249 - easy!

Title: Re: University of Surrey student accommodation
Post by NonGeographicalMan on Sep 28th, 2005 at 12:17am

See my suggestions in Post 2 of the below thread for ways to try to challenge this abuse.  Of course in this other case it was an 0871 at 10p per minute at all times but most of the issues are the same:-

http://www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi?board=test;action=display;num=1127593168

You should also consider submitting a request to the university under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 asking for disclosure of the underlying geographic numbers that these 0870 numbers point to.

You should also ask for details of the revenue share received by the university on each call and/or whether the telecoms equipment and lines were installed by the phone company free if they were allowed to use ripoff 0870 numbers.  You should ask the university to reveal if their facilities/telecoms/acommodation manager examined the cost of these calls compared to normal numbers starting 01 and 02 and whether the phone supplier offered an option to provide 01/02 numbers if the university had paid something towards the cost of the installation.

Title: Re: University of Surrey student accommodation
Post by Dave on Nov 9th, 2005 at 4:08pm
As it's an NTL system, try dialling 173 and see if it gives a number, as suggested here on the Cambridge University thread.

Title: University of Surrey
Post by jessporter on Dec 6th, 2006 at 3:44pm
Hello Everyone!

Can anyone offer advice on getting around the ridiculous prices charged by the Uni and NTL to call the phones in campus rooms?

The numbers are in the format: 0870 282 ****

Any suggestions would be much appreciated!

Jess x

[edit]by Dave: Thread merged with existing one.[/edit]

Title: Re: University of Surrey (Guildford) accommodation
Post by Dave on Dec 6th, 2006 at 7:41pm

jessporter wrote on Dec 6th, 2006 at 3:44pm:
Can anyone offer advice on getting around the ridiculous prices charged by the Uni and NTL to call the phones in campus rooms?

I've joined your thread to the existing one on University of Surrey accommodation. Different things have been suggested but nobody has come back and said that they have found the number. If you do, please let us know how to work out your geographical number.

Firstly I suggest that you try dialling 173, see my post above and the one on Cambridge. Does it reveal a number?

Everyone says it's provided by NTL, so the 01483 numbers jrawle has posted in Reply #5 are really worth a try. I've listed the numbers with their change dates (this is probably the date they came into service) and put them in cronological order:

01483 82 07/94
01483 83 08/94
01483 85 10/94
01483 87 10/94
01483 59 08/95
01483 88 08/95
01483 84 01/99
01483 00 06/00
01483 68 01/01

If you try the 01483 00 prefix, you must always dial the area code, even when calling from a line within that area. It will probably not be able to be called from a BT line, although we have had reports that NTL lines and Orange mobiles do allow these national-dialling only numbers to be called.

The question is, can we eliminate any of these prefixes?

I've just found this page on the Janet web site. You will see that the presentation was on 14 June 2000 and there is a case study here on Surrey's accommodation. Although it doesn't say exactly when it was all up and running for, it does say, under the heading "What we wanted", service from 1st September 1999.

I think we can safely say that it definately won't be 01483 00 and 01483 68. I would also suggest that those earlier prefixes have probably been used up (hence the reason they acquire some more), so the most likely ones are those that were allocated in 1995 (01483 59 and 01483 88) and 01483 84 (01/99).

Try the prefixes followed by the last four digits of your internal extension number.

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