searched all saynoto0870 avenues still no joy any knowledge out there please

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A Google at 0870 8881008 produced

Clifford James, High Street, Ripley, Woking, Surrey GU23 6AF Tel:0870 8881008

A subsequent search on 192.com gives:

01483 224552

;)Thanks for the info, hope your right as company address is in Skelmersdale Lancs. Will keep you informed
regards
golliwog

The company must've opened another shop, have a look here, a different 0870 number but there's a also a geographical one

http://www.clifford-james.co.uk/CliffordJames_OurRetailShop.cfm?CFID=4624216&CFTOKEN=4d3d272a25aba82e-71D443D2-65BF-7492-B2B434468F04F924

I hesitate to ask, but (in the spirit of enquiry) what is so special that one must buy shoes from people screwing you for the 'phone call?

I have found a geographical number for both Samuel Windsor and Clifford James, who are now both based in Skelmersdale.  The number is for the head office in Skelmersdale and its automatic answering states that it is 'BVG Airflow Group', but you immediately get menu options, such as 'sales', and, low and behold, you are through to Clifford James/ Samuel Windsor!  The number is 01874 612612.  Magic!  I have long been trying to find Clifford James's number - not a particularly nice firm to deal with.

There are several numbers listed in the unverified database:

• 01874 612612 As mentioned above by Mcavity. I have been unable to locate BVG Airflow Group's website, but this is a Brecon number.
  
• 01695 566980 appears to be a switchboard/general number as it answers "Clifford James".
  
• 01695 455647 No description.

The contact pages for Clifford James and Samuel Windsor gives the fax number 01695 566971. Numbers are the Skelmersdale office therefore probably begin 01695 5669xx.

All I can say is that I was able to get information on my Clifford James order today on the 01874 number, simply by pressing the appropraite menu button when prompted.  The fact that the parent company answers as BVG whatever is irrelevant.

Dave wrote on Oct 11^th, 2006 at 7:06pm:

There are several numbers listed in the unverified database: 01874 612612 As mentioned above by Mcavity. I have been unable to locate BVG Airflow Group's website, but this is a Brecon number. 01695 566980 appears to be a switchboard/general number as it answers "Clifford James". 01695 455647 No description. The contact pages for Clifford James and Samuel Windsor gives the fax number 01695 566971. Numbers are the Skelmersdale office therefore probably begin 01695 5669xx.

Why is this number not on the main Sayno site, then?

The BVG Airflo Group website is http://www.bvg-airflo.co.uk/

Address:

BVG Airflo Group PLC,
Units 5 & 6,
Industrial Estate,
Brecon, Powys,
LD3 8LA

Tel: 01874 612612
Fax: 01874 622994

BVG also operates Fishtec.

Currently just showing 0870 888 0890 with the corresponding 01695 566890

Now shows a "Returns Department" number on its stationery of 0844 941 0013 which can be connected from the same geographic number

Furry Fred wrote on Jun 14^th, 2008 at 1:25pm:

Currently just showing 0870 888 0890 with the corresponding 01695 566890 Now shows a "Returns Department" number on its stationery of 0844 941 0013 which can be connected from the same geographic number

Thanks for that.

I've amended the entry and verified it. The website now shows the order number to be 0871 911 7003 so I've put this in as well.

Hello everyone

Please can someone provide with an alternative geo number for this company, please?

Their sales number is 0871 911 7044.

The address is:- ( from their website http://tinyurl.com/6pbjpc )    

Clifford James
Gladden Place
West Gillibrands
Skelmersdale
Lanc's
WN8 9SX

All responses gratefully received - thanks for your help.

Regards

happy37

Clifford James


(01695) 566981

Sherbert

Thanks for your help - is this already in the database?

If not, please add this in case someone else needs it.

Thanks again for your help.

Regards

happy37

I actually found that on the BT 'Phone Book' on http://www.bt.com/

That is quite a good place to start if the database fails for a request.

Others are

http://www.118.com/

http://www.192.com/

I have added the number to the data base. However your web link does not make any sense. ::)

sherbert

Thanks for your reply - the link that I gave is the same as http://tinyurl.com/6qw8rv
with the same contact info...you can compare the two if you wish.

Here's the other link again:-

http://tinyurl.com/6pbjpc

Thx again for your help.

Rgds

happy37

happy37 wrote on Jul 7^th, 2008 at 2:05pm:

sherbert Thanks for your reply - the link that I gave is the same as http://tinyurl.com/6qw8rv with the same contact info...you can compare the two if you wish. Here's the other link again:- http://tinyurl.com/6pbjpc Thx again for your help. Rgds happy37

Ok gotcha!

For some reason that link did not work before but it does now. :)

Hi. Anyone know a landline number for Fishtec? 0871 911 7002 is the number you are ment to call.
I have looked on the database here and the only number given is not a known number.

Thanks for any help.

Fishtec is a fishing company that sells fishing products. ie: fishing rods, fishing reels, all things to do with fishing.

Their address is...

Fishtec
Unit 6,
Industrial Estate,
Brecon,
Powys,
LD3 8LA.

The website is: http://www.fishtec-coarse.co.uk/

The number you have to call for Fishtec is 871 911 7002

When you dial the alternative number given on the database here on SAYNOTO0870.COM, (which given is, 01874 612600), a recording says 'sorry, the number is no longer avalible'.

Does anyone know an alternative number for Fishtec (all details above) other than 0871 911 7002

Thank you for any help.

BVG Airflo trades under a number of names and each have a website and catalogue. Catalogues are also available virtually online. Readers can flick through pages just like with the real catalogues.

To summarise, it has the following operations:

SHOES

Clifford James
Website: www.clifford-james.co.uk
Orders: 0871 911 7000
Customer services: 0871 911 7003
Fax: 01695 566971

Samuel Windsor
Website: www.samuel-windsor.co.uk
Orders: 0871 911 7044
Customer services: 0871 911 7003
Fax: 01695 566971

Address for Clifford James and Samuel Windsor:

Clifford James
Gladden Place
West Gillibrands
Skelmersdale
Lanc's
WN8 9SX

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FISHING

Fishtec Fly
Website: www.fishtec.co.uk
Orders and customer services: 0871 911 7001
Fax: 0871 911 7040

Fishtec Coarse
Website: www.fishtec-coarse.co.uk
Orders and customer services: 0871 911 7002
Fax: 0871 911 7040

Flylines.com
Website: www.flylines.com
Tel: 0871 911 7008
Fax: 01874 624030

Total Fishing Gear
Website: www.tfgear.co.uk
Orders and customer services: 0871 911 7045
Fax: 0871 911 7040

Tightlines
Website: www.tightlines.co.uk
Orders and customer services: 0871 911 7025
Fax: 0871 911 1035

Address for fishing brands:

Unit 6,
Industrial Estate,
Brecon,
Powys,
LD3 8LA

---

BVG's main address is given as:

BVG Airflo Group Ltd
Units 5 & 6
Ffrwdgrech Industrial Estate
Brecon, Powys
LD3 8LA
TEL: 0871 911 7008

The number in the database for Fishtec is: 01874 612600.

Ringing this number today (8 May) there is a recorded message: ..we are closed for the Bank Holiday and will re-open on 5 May.

;D

Thank you for help lompos, but when I called that number (twice) I got a message that said 'sorry, the number is no longer avalible'.

I think the number is correct but the company changed its name or merged.

Calling 01874 612 600 today (9 May) they answer as the switchboard for BVG Airflow Ltd.

Their website is http://www.bvg-airflo.co.uk/

and their line of business:

BVG Airflo Group Ltd is a multi channel retailer operating in three principle markets :-

Footwear and Clothing
Fishing Tackle
Home and Garden products

A check of 01874 612 xxx numbers reveals:

600 Closed
602 Tightlines
605 BVG Airflo Group Ltd - dial extension, press 4 for accounts or hold for operator
606 as 605
607 as 605
608 as 605
609 as 605
610 as 605
611 as 605
612 as 600
616 as 605

800 Customer services (no idea what for)

Clifford James’ number – 01695 566980
Beware when using this number.  We have just received a BT bill for ‘attempting’ to contact this company.  We are just recovering from the shock as we were charged a total of £98.47 for four calls.  It would appear that the line was left open from the automatic answering machine at their end on four separate occasions.  We never actually managed to speak to anyone.   The calls were supposedly for 2 x 8 hours – 1 x 3 ½ hrs and (wait for it) 1 x 17 hours.  One of the calls was listed as being at 01.31 on the morning of Sunday 25 October when we were all in bed!!!
We immediately rang BT when we received our bill and were very courteously listened to and it was agreed that there was something seriously wrong.  They are investigating and will re-fund us appropriately.  We are sure that there is something strange happening here!!!

::)

AandA wrote on Nov 4^th, 2009 at 4:18pm:

Clifford James’ number – 01695 566980 Beware when using this number.  We have just received a BT bill for ‘attempting’ to contact this company.  We are just recovering from the shock as we were charged a total of £98.47 for four calls.  It would appear that the line was left open from the automatic answering machine at their end on four separate occasions.  …

Hi and welcome to SAYNOTO0870.COM.

I've joined your posting to the existing thread for Clifford James and associated companies.

From what you say, it would appear that the line was left open. It's not the recipient's fault that the caller has incurred charges if this was the case.

When a call is landline to landline and there is a period of silence, the call will be ended (terminated) after several minutes. However, if the recipient plays a recording over and over, it stands to reason that this will never happen.


What types of telephones do you have on your line? Cordless, corded, how many of each? If any are corded, are they old models? Perhaps if they are corded, the switch that operates when the handset is replaced is not working as it should and the line if remaining open.

Our single phone line is just standard and we had no reason to suspect that the Clifford James answerphone was still on the line.

One point that I failed to make was the fact that we have NEVER had this problem before or since with our landline.  This particular number is BAD NEWS and we still consider there is something strange going on with this number.

::)

Just wanted to advise that the alternative number for this company 01695 566980  is no longer in use.
They answer it and then it goes dead.

hansi wrote on Dec 6^th, 2010 at 9:28am:

Just wanted to advise that the alternative number for this company 01695 566980  is no longer in use. They answer it and then it goes dead.

Thanks for this.  :)

I've done some work on the entries for Clifford James and others BVG Airflo companies.

On calling the 01695 566980 number, one is greeted with a recording requesting an extension number be entered or to hold for an operator. Holding puts one into what can only be decribed as technological abiss (silence), which may well explain AandA's report (above) last year on which the line remained open.

BT Phonebook lists 01695 556981 for Clifford James at Gladden Place West, Gillibrands, Skelmersdale, Lancashire, WN8 9SX. This is the address of Esher Mail Order Ltd, which trades as Clifford James and Samuel Windsor, which is part of BVG Airflo Group Ltd.

That isn't the number for the Brecon address as I've tried that one too. Had to use the 0870 number in the end and was on hold for eight minutes! Hope they've sorted out the problem with the answering machine on that other number as I called it a few times too!

hansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2010 at 4:34pm:

That isn't the number for the Brecon address as I've tried that one too. Had to use the 0870 number in the end and was on hold for eight minutes! Hope they've sorted out the problem with the answering machine on that other number as I called it a few times too!

The Brecon address is home to BVG Airflo (Esher's parent) which is where its fishing sites run from.

Did you speak to anyone on the 01874 number(s)? If so, and they couldn't deal with your call, then that suggests that calls to Clifford James and Samuel Windsor are dealt with at Skelmersdale, or perhaps somewhere else. If it's Skelmersdale, the I suggest trying 01695 566981.

Dave wrote on Nov 4^th, 2009 at 4:32pm:

AandA wrote on Nov 4th, 2009 at 4:18pm: Clifford James’ number – 01695 566980 Beware when using this number.  We have just received a BT bill for ‘attempting’ to contact this company.  We are just recovering from the shock as we were charged a total of £98.47 for four calls.  It would appear that the line was left open from the automatic answering machine at their end on four separate occasions.  … Hi and welcome to SAYNOTO0870.COM. I've joined your posting to the existing thread for Clifford James and associated companies. From what you say, it would appear that the line was left open. It's not the recipient's fault that the caller has incurred charges if this was the case. When a call is landline to landline and there is a period of silence, the call will be ended (terminated) after several minutes. However, if the recipient plays a recording over and over, it stands to reason that this will never happen. What types of telephones do you have on your line? Cordless, corded, how many of each? If any are corded, are they old models? Perhaps if they are corded, the switch that operates when the handset is replaced is not working as it should and the line if remaining open.

I rang this this number too and got silence. But they do not repeat the message so it should have terminated the call.

Dave wrote on Dec 12^th, 2010 at 4:55pm:

Did you speak to anyone on the 01874 number(s)? If so, and they couldn't deal with your call, then that suggests that calls to Clifford James and Samuel Windsor are dealt with at Skelmersdale, or perhaps somewhere else. If it's Skelmersdale, the I suggest trying 01695 566981.

I have removed 01695 566981 as it's for the retail shop at the warehouse and is closed indefinately.

Also in 55698x range is:

982 Heather
983 Jenny
984 reads out the address of the Clifford James Distribution Centre (and then quotes a returns authorisation number)
986 enter ext number; directory of extensions (no names in directory); for operator, transfers to x500
987 fax

All which transfer to the operator go to silence, so whether it's actually ringing someone's phone, we can't tell.

I believe that numbers below this belong to another organsation.


There is another retail shop in Woking:

Telephone:      01483 224552
Fax      01483 223984

Clifford James
High Street
Ripley
Woking
Surrey
GU23 6FF

The number 01695 566965 works, if only they could get their act together there would not be any need to ring them !

BVG Airflo Ltd
Unit 6
Ffrwdgrech Industrial Estate
Brecon
LD3 3BE

Tel : 01874 612700

Got through on this number fine today. She answered "Reader Offers".