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Message started by idb on May 24th, 2006 at 3:10am

Title: SNEN, US-style
Post by idb on May 24th, 2006 at 3:10am
Here's how one city here implements a single non-emergency number (3-1-1):

http://www.nyc.gov/html/doitt/html/about/about_311.shtml

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Contrast with the hopeless Ofcom/Home Office 101 - 3-1-1 is free and an alternative geographic number is given for calls originating from outside the five boroughs.



Title: Re: SNEN, US-style
Post by bbb_uk on May 25th, 2006 at 7:56pm

idb wrote on May 24th, 2006 at 3:10am:
Contrast with the hopeless Ofcom/Home Office 101 - 3-1-1 is free and an alternative geographic number is given for calls originating from outside the five boroughs.
Is the only reason a geographical is given is for those outside the area?  This obviously doesn't apply in the UK because when its up and running the number will be available from anywhere in the UK so therefore no one will be outside the area.

I agree there should be an alternative geographical but something tells me they wont release it.

Title: Re: SNEN, US-style
Post by idb on May 30th, 2006 at 11:48pm

bbb_uk wrote on May 25th, 2006 at 7:56pm:

idb wrote on May 24th, 2006 at 3:10am:
Contrast with the hopeless Ofcom/Home Office 101 - 3-1-1 is free and an alternative geographic number is given for calls originating from outside the five boroughs.
Is the only reason a geographical is given is for those outside the area?  This obviously doesn't apply in the UK because when its up and running the number will be available from anywhere in the UK so therefore no one will be outside the area.

I agree there should be an alternative geographical but something tells me they wont release it.
The publication of a geographic alternative is very relevant. Let's assume that a NYC resident is visiting, say Los Angeles, and needs to folow up on say, a NYC-government issue. Dialling 311 in LA would be pointless as the LA call center will know nothing about NY issues. The geographic number allows someone outside the area to get through to the appropriate place.

I have not studied the UK SNEN proposals in any detail, but I suspect that if you dial 101 (or whatever it is) in Birmingham, you'll be put through to a Birmingham-area center, which may be useless if you are following-up something that happened in Glasgow.

Over here, the planners of these systems have signifgicantly greater foresight than the UK authorities, who simply bury their heads in the sand and sit back on their fat corporate backsides.

Title: Re: SNEN, US-style
Post by bbb_uk on May 31st, 2006 at 6:32am

idb wrote on May 30th, 2006 at 11:48pm:
The publication of a geographic alternative is very relevant. Let's assume that a NYC resident is visiting, say Los Angeles, and needs to folow up on say, a NYC-government issue. Dialling 311 in LA would be pointless as the LA call center will know nothing about NY issues. The geographic number allows someone outside the area to get through to the appropriate place.
I agree here.


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I have not studied the UK SNEN proposals in any detail, but I suspect that if you dial 101 (or whatever it is) in Birmingham, you'll be put through to a Birmingham-area center, which may be useless if you are following-up something that happened in Glasgow.
From my understanding of it, I think it will cover several areas.  So it may cover Birmingham and surrounding areas.  Obvious in this example, it wouldn't cover Glasgow.  I assume therefore that if you dialled 101, they will transfer you to Birmingham but not sure actually.

I personally am not in favour of this number because apparently there are still some issues where you have to ring the police directly because the 101 will only cover certain non-emergencies things.  If this is the case, then it will/can cost us more.  10p for the call to 101 to find out that we then still have to ring the relevant police on probably their 0845.  As I said I'm not entirely sure how it will work, if they can/will transfer you to other 101 areas or to, in this example, Birmingham police, then that is fine otherwise it can cost more.

If they do/can forward the call then this will be at the cost of the 101 call centre so chances are not likely.

For calling my local police, I'm still going to continue to contact them direct for as long as possible especially as they still operate a geo and haven't been conned into issuing a so-called local rate 0845.

Title: Re: SNEN, US-style
Post by Blaydonuk on Jun 7th, 2006 at 1:15pm
In the North East of England, calls to 101 are initially being shared between the Police Call centre and Newcastle and Sunderland council call centres - with other councils to be rolled in over time.

Calls will route between all three randomnly and where a call hits a council but needs police action it will be transferred as a Warm call - i.e data keyed by the operator will transfer too (personally dont believe the technology is in place for that).

Calls received on 101 by the police that need to be dealt with as a police emergency are to be transferred to the 999 queue - the call could then be re-answered by the same operator! However it was felt that if the police operator handled the 101 call as a 999 call it would cause confusion.

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