Another sneaky  price rise by 18185, for 0870 calls this time,via 18185 access
     
www.18185.co.uk

Connection still 4p.( With minute billing).

Peak now 6p a minute,formerly 5p .

Evenings now 4p a minute ,formerly 3p .

Weekends now 2p a minute formerly 1p .

This means they no longer offer cheapest prices on 0870.

Peak can still be got at 5p a minute via www.dialaround.co.uk and some other 0844 providers.

BT is cheapest at evening and weekends  with 3p connection  and  Minute Billing.  3.5p a minute evenings  . 1.5p a minute weekends.

Note.

I have just noticed that if you use the 0808 freephone access number it still shows 4p a minute peak.

See: http://www.18185.co.uk/mobilerates.php

Thanks for that.

I've just updated the Cheap Call Providers - BT Landline Customers thread.

As Call18185 are cheaper by 1p/min for calls to 0870 during the daytime (all other times BT are cheaper), I wonder if it's worth me just recommending using BT for daytime 0870 calls.  This avoids the connection charge as BT don't charge a connection charge for 084x/087x numbers and more importingly for those with free CLI, it helps to ensure you dont pay for CLI.

bbb_uk wrote on Jan 5^th, 2007 at 7:03pm:

As Call18185 are cheaper by 1p/min for calls to 0870 during the daytime (all other times BT are cheaper), I wonder if it's worth me just recommending using BT for daytime 0870 calls.  This avoids the connection charge as BT don't charge a connection charge for 084x/087x numbers and more importingly for those with free CLI, it helps to ensure you dont pay for CLI.

Are you sure?


Quote:

Call Set-Up Fee - All Residential Customers A Call Set-Up Fee of 2.55 pence (exc VAT), 3 pence (inc VAT) will apply to the following Call Types: • Operator Assisted Calls (specially assisted) • International Calls (including calls to international mobiles) • Inland Calls to numbers beginning 01 and 02 and including Number Translation Services calls e.g. 0845, 0870, 0871, 08xx and including calls to premium numbers e.g. 09xx. • Fixed-to-mobile calls • Calls from Private Payphones • Calls to 05xx number range • Geographic calls using ISDN 64k Except in the following cases or unless otherwise stated in the relevant section of the Price List:- • Freefone calls • UK Evening and Weekend geographic calls where the pence per minute (ppm) rate has been set to zero for the first hour of each call (or to such calls which start within the uncharged period but end after the uncharged period) • Fixed rate UK calls on BT Together Option 1 • Fixed fee calls • Calls charged by Time duration which start with a Fixed fee.

http://www.downloads.bt.com/pricing/SpecialisedNos.pdf (Page 27)

I would be surprised if BT did not charge a 3p connection to call NGN Numbers ,as other suppliers who have copied their 3p connection , minute billing for chargeable calls do.

Heinz wrote on Jan 5^th, 2007 at 9:54pm:

bbb_uk wrote on Jan 5th, 2007 at 7:03pm: As Call18185 are cheaper by 1p/min for calls to 0870 during the daytime (all other times BT are cheaper), I wonder if it's worth me just recommending using BT for daytime 0870 calls.  This avoids the connection charge as BT don't charge a connection charge for 084x/087x numbers and more importingly for those with free CLI, it helps to ensure you dont pay for CLI. Are you sure?

My mistake, I got it confused with whole minute charging  :D

Both your link above and the callsave website do clearly state the 'setup fee' will be applied to NGN's as well.

bbb_uk wrote on Jan 5^th, 2007 at 7:03pm:

This avoids the connection charge as BT don't charge a connection charge for 084x/087x numbers and more importingly for those with free CLI, it helps to ensure you dont pay for CLI.

BT do charge the connection fee for 084/7 numbers - that's why they reduced their pence per minute rate for these calls slightly when they introduced the connection fee.  And Dave was the one pointed this out to me.

The only thing BT don't do with 084/7 calls is to round the charge up to the nearest minute like they do with calls to 01/02 numbers.

acezing wrote on Jan 5^th, 2007 at 11:35pm:

I would be surprised if BT did not charge a 3p connection to call NGN Numbers ,as other suppliers who have copied their 3p connection , minute billing for chargeable calls do.

So Ofcom deregulating BT call prices and line rental has really allowed market forces to help lower the price of phone calls for the citizen consumer hasn't it. ::) :o >:( :'( :'( :'(