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Message started by David_H on Dec 12th, 2008 at 12:44pm

Title: Customer number guides
Post by David_H on Dec 12th, 2008 at 12:44pm
I was very disappointed when both Oakley publishing and BT stopped printing their code decoders in unison and besides the Oftel site which is hard to navigate and not always up to date, when I see new numbers (they stand out like coins in the street to me) I can't always find the exact meaning of them. I would like to complete my local 020 list with the new 020-3 exchanges without waiting to see a number and marry it to its location each time. I go back to the days when phone books listed every exchange location for London and like to maintain it. If I read an ad in the paper I'd still like to know if it's in Barnet or Bexley and despite muddying the waters greatly I can still do this for non-BT exchanges as well albeit within a much larger area.

Is there any other publication to replace what has gone or will we all now have to rely on the internet or asking insiders? I am still waiting to hear where 020 8457 is for as it came out since the last book was published (although most users are in the 8455 area it may well include others as many do nowadays). I don't like gaps in my data and am proud to be the anorak that I am. And why should we have to be content with partial data anyway? You wouldn't want it from a professional?

Title: Re: Customer number guides
Post by Dave on Dec 12th, 2008 at 1:01pm
I am not sure that an up-to-date list could be produced because telephone prefixes often don't relate to a district within the STD code area.

The ones which you have listed in your BT decoder will still be accurate today. Newer number blocks have since been allocated to many other companies which obviously includes Cable & Wireless, Virgin Media and BT.

The best you can do is download the allocation lists from Ofcom:

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/ioi/numbers/numbers_administered/#geog1

Change date 07/1994 is the earliest they go back to, so those with that date may well have been in existance way before that time.

Title: Re: Customer number guides
Post by andy9 on Dec 14th, 2008 at 12:53am
this might also be interesting or useful

http://www.magsys.co.uk/telecom/codelook.asp

which shows for example that the 020 8457 ~ you were wondering about are BT numbers in Hendon (~ 1-4, 6, 9) and Golders Green ( ~ 5, 7, 8)

I think a lot of the 020 3~ numbers are allocated to other providers which don't necessarily imply a particular geographic location - or they aren't defined on there; how numbers or lines get ported, I don't know

Title: Re: Customer number guides
Post by David_H on Dec 14th, 2008 at 6:07pm
Thanks Andy, the other site is OK for totally new arrivals but doesn't pin it down like the books did. Does anyone know why no one bothers to print them now as it's not as if the information is easily available anywhere else? And the books were very popular when they were sold.

Title: Re: Customer number guides
Post by lompos on Dec 16th, 2008 at 9:18pm
I use an old (2001) edition of BT's Phone Book Companion and note that BT are still selling it for £4:  http://www.shop.bt.com/productview.aspx?quicklinx=4KBG.

This publication is probably not as detailed as you would like, and I am not sure how up to date the current edition is, but at least it is a book.

Title: Re: Customer number guides
Post by David_H on Dec 16th, 2008 at 11:32pm
Thanks Lompos- I usually changed mine every couple of years and swapped back to Oakley's which stopped publishing in 2002. I suppose so many people just do a search now they couldn't sell enough to make a profit. The limp rag BT make now for £1 (plus £3.50 p&p, clearly learnt from ebay) is what is already in the directory but in reverse, ie a list of exchanges. No numbers any more. The profit they get on postage clearly fools the poor sods who like me think they're getting something they need.

The online guide just mentioned does track down geographic numbers, so should do half the job although of course you then need to actively search down new arrivals on the Often site so neither work without having to use the other unlike the books. Nothing lasts it seems.

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