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Message started by Dave on Dec 31st, 2008 at 9:04pm

Title: MP calls for public sector ban on high rate number
Post by Dave on Dec 31st, 2008 at 9:04pm
Source: Dave Anderson MP

http://www.daveanderson.org.uk/news.htm#MP%20calls%20for%20public%20sector%20ban%20on%20high%20rate%20numbers

MP calls for public sector ban on high rate numbers
19 Dec 2008

Premium rate and lo-call numbers need to be scrapped in the public sector, says Dave Anderson MP in an article for the upcoming Fabian Review.

He says:

   "The government needs to act on this: the use of expensive numbers by GPs should be explicitly forbidden."

Anderson argues:

   "Many of you will have had this soul-destroying experience. A product or service goes wrong and you have to phone the supplier at a premium rate number starting with 087. The cost of the call increases along with your blood pressure as you are connected and wait in line whilst a robotic voice tells you between snatches of musak how important you are to them.

   "Or you have to navigate a thicket of often irrelevant options before reaching a call centre worker. They can sometimes sort out the problem there and then. But most are under pressure and have neither the time nor the expertise nor the authority to deal with it.

   "It’s difficult to avoid the suspicion that some companies are content with customers queuing for long periods to reduce staff numbers and make money from the stressed customer who wishes to complain about a faulty product. So much the better if this deters some from bothering to pursue the issue.

   "It’s impossible to quantify how much this costs the consumer but my assumption is that very many are exploited by having to use numbers which cost much more than ordinary phone numbers. They cost even more if you use your mobile, which is the only option for some of the poorest people who cannot afford BT line rental charges.

   "As times get tougher, action to curb this is necessary to protect households from the recession and in the interest of fairness. The scale of this practice needs to be exposed to shame companies that fleece their customers.

   "So, the government and Ofcom should seek a voluntary deal with the private sector to stop the use of premium rate numbers - and legislate if necessary.

"Dearer numbers are also used in the public sector, including NHS Direct, some benefit helplines and even the parliamentary ombudsman.

"Ministers are moving on this. The government and Ofcom are developing guidelines for ‘numbering policy in public sector delivery organisations,’ including the use of new non-geographic 03 numbers which cost no more than calls to numbers beginning 01 and 02, and are included in inclusive call minutes or discount schemes. The results are expected next year.

"Premium rate and lo-call numbers need to be scrapped as the norm in the public sector.

"MPs are also concerned about the growing use by GPs’ surgeries of 084 numbers, which cost more to call from both a standard BT line and a mobile. The government says that ‘patients should not be expected to pay more than the equivalent of a local call’ and is gathering evidence.

"The government needs to act on this: the use of expensive numbers by GPs should be explicitly forbidden.

"In the meantime, a tip: visit www.saynoto0870.com which lists many non-premium geographical numbers or even freephone numbers for expensive 087 and 084 numbers."

Title: Re: MP calls for public sector ban on high rate nu
Post by derrick on Jan 1st, 2009 at 11:21am
Excellent, now if he can only get a few hundred more MP's on side there might be a chance, but only one voice in the wilderness! then I doubt it.

Title: Re: MP calls for public sector ban on high rate nu
Post by poppasmurf on Jan 4th, 2009 at 10:46pm
We should all be emailing the address of this page to our own MP.

I'm sending it to mine now.

Title: Re: MP calls for public sector ban on high rate nu
Post by SilentCallsVictim on Jan 5th, 2009 at 3:35am

derrick wrote on Jan 1st, 2009 at 11:21am:
Excellent, now if he can only get a few hundred more MP's on side there might be a chance, but only one voice in the wilderness! then I doubt it.

We have far more than a hundred who are agreed in principle, however their constituents may demand their attention to other priorities.
There are a number of other voices who have spoken out and I predict that more will follow when they return from their Christmas holiday.
The tide is with us at the moment, let us ensure that we make the most of it.

Title: Re: MP calls for public sector ban on high rate nu
Post by NGMsGhost on Jan 8th, 2009 at 5:10am

Dave wrote on Dec 31st, 2008 at 9:04pm:
Source: Dave Anderson MP

http://www.daveanderson.org.uk/news.htm#MP%20calls%20for%20public%20sector%20ban%20on%20high%20rate%20numbers

MP calls for public sector ban on high rate numbers
19 Dec 2008

"Ministers are moving on this. The government and Ofcom are developing guidelines for ‘numbering policy in public sector delivery organisations,’ including the use of new non-geographic 03 numbers which cost no more than calls to numbers beginning 01 and 02, and are included in inclusive call minutes or discount schemes. The results are expected next year."


Yeah right.  So Ofcom is moving on the issue is it.  But just needs another year or two to stir itself off its telco provided featherbed.

So that would be the same Ofcom that has just closed out a re-consulation on 070 Personal Numbers used by none other than companies that run ripoff 47p per minute hospital patient phone lines by saying it will disregard all the proposals it made in its previous Safeguarding The Future of Numbers Consultation and earlier 070 consultations and will not move them to the 06 number range and will not now require call price pre announcements because there is not really much consumer detriment in their use that would justify all the cost and loss of income of such a change to the telcos. ::)

I bet I was the only here who responded on that consultation too:-

See www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi?num=1230941929

Title: Re: MP calls for public sector ban on high rate nu
Post by NGMsGhost on Jan 8th, 2009 at 5:16am

SilentCallsVictim wrote on Jan 5th, 2009 at 3:35am:
The tide is with us at the moment, let us ensure that we make the most of it.


The tide always appears to be with us but then inconveniently goes on the turn against us because of all the vested commercial interests with connections at the top of New Labour who stand to lose out if all the 084/7 scams are closed down.

This MP is hardly the first one to have tried to do something on the issue and not succeeded is he?

For Ofcom to be quoted  by him as the saviour when they are in fact the principal defendant of all the continued 084/7 abuses clearly shows that this Labour MP is only trying to make a big political puff but has no clue at all what he is actually talking about.

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