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How many NGN's are in use?
May 17th, 2005 at 6:08pm
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I guess I am beginning to feel more than a little paranoid about the apparent spread of 0870 (and 0845) numbers in the UK. I realise that this site is doing a fantastic job, and I read with glee the comment from DVLA demanding you all stop calling their geographic switchboard! Wonderful! "Stick it up 'em, Mr Mannering....!"  Grin

However, yesterday I was attempting to book a short trip to Europe whilst on holiday in the UK. Every UK travel site I visited had a 0870 number. Yep - every single one (and I must have looked at a dozen or so). In addition, I subscribe to a couple of UK magazines which I get delivered here in the US. I note that probably 80 to 85% of the advertisers have a 0870 number - with absolutely no mention of an alternative geographic number.

So just how pervasive is this scam? Are we attempting to 'stick our finger in the dyke'? Are the big guns of BT aligned against us? Does anyone have any idea just how much they are creaming from this gigantic - and monopolistic - scam? (I seem to remember some enormous figure being mentioned in this or another site, but I can't recall how much it was). Does ANYONE in the UK have a geographic number any more?  Undecided

And - last but not least, does anyone have any idea of how many 0870 numbers are in use - and what the current uptake rate of them is? It would make interesting - and depressing - reading, I'm sure....

Or am I just being overly pessimistic?  Undecided
  
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Re: How many NGN's are in use?
Reply #1 - May 17th, 2005 at 6:54pm
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Whilst I don't know how many 0870 and other rip-off numbers are in use, I do know is that unless Ofcom gets its finger out of its backside, it will not be long before virtually every business, organization, non-profit and governmental department uses a non-geographic number. Area codes will only be used by individuals. To call any non-individual will require an examination of the first eight digits of a number in order to be able to determine the cost. This scam is unbelievable from a developed country. Living here in Miami, I dread having to make any call to a British organization such as a bank or government agency. Using geographic equivalents, it is often necessary to explain to the recipient of the call that the 0870/0845 number cannot be called from overseas, at least not easily or cheaply. The whole process is tortuous and time-consuming. Just what do the idiots at Ofcom think they are doing? Despite efforts by some MPs and others within the BBC and media, the whole 0870 rip-off remains misunderstood by the British public. This whole mess is Ofcom's fault - the same idiots that made a complete balls-up of the DQ system. Ofcom needs to be held accountable and liable for this numbering nonsense.
  

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