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Reply #375 - May 24th, 2006 at 5:34pm
 
Did I miss something?  This consultation has closed and Ofcom's response announced already!

There are two consultations that I know of (although knowing Ofcom more are probably in the pipeline), they are Safeguarding the use of Numbers which actually closed 30minutes ago, and Retail Price Control Consultation which closes in 5 days time.  The latter one mentions Ofcom removing the regultary regulations on most of BT's prices which could easily mean higher linerental for us!
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Reply #376 - May 24th, 2006 at 5:51pm
 
bbb_uk wrote on May 24th, 2006 at 5:34pm:
There are two consultations that I know of (although knowing Ofcom more are probably in the pipeline), they are Safeguarding the use of Numbers which actually closed 30minutes ago, and Retail Price Control Consultation which closes in 5 days time.  The latter one mentions Ofcom removing the regultary regulations on most of BT's prices which could easily mean higher linerental for us!


Sorry to correct you bbb_uk but Safeguarding the Future of Numbers actually closes tomorrow May 25th following the extension of the previous early May deadline by Ofcom.

See P.1 of www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/numberingreview/numbering.pdf and the list of still open Ofcom telecoms consultations at www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/?open=Yes&sector=Telecoms

There never was a consultation called Ofcom - Future of 0870 Numbers.  There were consultations called NTS Options For The Future and NTS  A Way Forward which then led on to Ofcom's recent statement on 084/7 numbers and of course the proposals in the still open consultation that closes tomorrow on Safeguarding The Future of Numbers but which are largely pre-empted in pary by the Statement on 084/7 numbers that came out of the NTS Way Forward and NTS Options For the Future consultations. I not unnaturally thought kk must therefore be referrring to Safeguarding The Future of Numbers at this particular moment in time.

Do you perhaps have a Tardis bbb_uk and so are travelling one day in the future ahead of the rest of us? Wink Smiley Cheesy
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Reply #377 - May 24th, 2006 at 6:11pm
 
I was thinking about the two NTS consultations.
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Reply #378 - May 24th, 2006 at 6:26pm
 
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Do you perhaps have a Tardis bbb_uk and so are travelling one day in the future ahead of the rest of us? Wink Smiley Cheesy
My mistake I'm a day ahead of myself.  I'm just filling in my response now thinking I hope they accept it being a few hours late.   Wink

Oh and I wish I did have a Tardis  Grin
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Reply #379 - May 24th, 2006 at 6:29pm
 
kk wrote on May 24th, 2006 at 6:11pm:
I was thinking about the two NTS consultations.


Did you miss Ofcom's Statement on its future approach on 084/7 numbers only a few weeks ago.  Unfortunately it seems impossible to trace now on the Ofcom website. Shocked Huh
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Reply #380 - May 24th, 2006 at 8:20pm
 
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Did you miss Ofcom's Statement on its future approach on 084/7 numbers only a few weeks ago.  Unfortunately it seems impossible to trace now on the Ofcom website. Shocked Huh

What's this then?  Huh
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Reply #381 - May 24th, 2006 at 10:57pm
 
Thanks Dave and NGM -  I am confused tonight, I must be suffering from consultation fatigue - all is now clear.
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Reply #382 - May 24th, 2006 at 11:39pm
 
kk wrote on May 24th, 2006 at 10:57pm:
Thanks Dave and NGM -  I am confused tonight, I must be suffering from consultation fatigue - all is now clear.


Ofcom's whole game is to cause everyone to eventually suffere consulation fatigue (they have 200 consultations a year or something none of which they apparently take any notice of) and give up on responding to their consultations once the respondees learn the lesson that Ofcom's game is to simply pretend to consult then ignore all the views received, other than those in support of what they were intending to do in the first place.

I should have responded to the Voip services consultation. There were some important issues to address buth there are only so many hours in the day and what's the point in making the effort only to have one's views filed and ignored by some hardbitten Ofcom cynic focused only on the next promotion and not making any waves that might prevent the further enhancement of his or her's superannuated pension! Sad Angry Cry
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Reply #383 - May 25th, 2006 at 9:53am
 
The entire way that Ofcom operate is becoming clear. They do not begin to fulfil the statutory obligation to look after the interests of the citizen - consumer, but blatantly act as the de facto telecom trade association.  The subscriptions being paid by the taxpayer.  

The many headed Hydra of the “084x and 087x” scam has not been slain.   At the mere mention of cutting off the 0870 head, 0844 grows.  0844 cost 400% more than 0870 for most of the week, and cost more than 0870 in a pay-phone all the time.  So why leave 0845 and 0844, they are as evil as 0870, and more so, as they are portrayed as “just a local call” to disarm critics.

I think a formal complaint to the National Audit Office is overdue.

In a nightmare - Ofcom was put in charge of the Home Office.

Some weeks later the headlines read: “Bunglers are complaining that the 5 lever mortice locks fitted to houses are harming trade. An Ofcom spokesman (himself a reformed burglar) said: ‘Burglary is now a multi-million pound business and an important factor in the UK economy.  I advise all householders that have 5 lever mortice locks on the front door to leave the back door open.’ The spokesman confirmed that: 'Ofcom has conducted research on this problem and the many focus groups consulted had reinforced Ofcom's advice.  We even consulted the respected statistical expert, Professor Sir Roy Meadows, who confirmed our findings.’ ...”
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Reply #384 - May 25th, 2006 at 10:02am
 
kk wrote on May 25th, 2006 at 9:53am:
In a nightmare - Ofcom was put in charge of the Home Office.

Some weeks later the headlines read: “Bunglers are complaining that the 5 lever mortice locks fitted to houses are harming trade. An Ofcom spokesman (himself a reformed thief) said: ‘Burglary is now a multi-million pound business and an important factor in the UK economy.  I advise all householders that have 5 lever mortice locks on the front door to leave the back door open.’ The spokesman confirmed that: 'Ofcom has conducted research on this problem and the many focus groups consulted had reinforced Ofcoms advice.  We even consulted the respected statistical expert, Professor Sir Roy Meadows, who confirmed our findings.’ ...”


kk,

You had me burst out with laughter at this amusing anecdote which while seemingly a little OTT is basically true since all claims that 0870 and 0845 are national and local rate that spineless Ofcom allows to continue to this very day do amount to organised theft via telecoms consumer deception.
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