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Maxwell.h
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Jul 21st, 2010 at 6:29pm
 
Before i start i found this deal over on MSE.

This a sim only deal which looks good value. the part that caught my attention was the bit which says,
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"Free numbers:We also believe that a free number should be just that, so all 0800 and similar numbers really are free. "  
Does anybody on this site use or give any info on this company.

http://giffgaff.com/    

Many thanks,

Maxwell.h                                                                



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Re: Sim Only Deal
Reply #1 - Jul 21st, 2010 at 6:42pm
 
Is this where it mentions Free 0800 Calls?

http://giffgaff.com/index/pricing

GiffGaff are "people powered" and are a Mobile Virtual Network Operator (MVNO) who use the O2 network to connect their calls.

Similar to Tesco Mobile (also use O2)

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Reply #2 - Jul 21st, 2010 at 7:12pm
 
A quick review of the giffgaff website shows that they are trying a slightly different business model, one feature of which is giving away free 080 calls.

It is important to understand that giffgaff is meeting the balance of the cost of the call (through O2) over and above what the recipient is paying. This is not in any way a radical change to the arrangements for 080 calls as such, it is just another part of a very cheap package.

If the giffgaff model takes off and captures a significant share of the market, then this idea could spread. Alternatively, once a significant share of the market has been captured there is a lesser need to offer such attractive prices.

The long term future of charging for mobile services depends on what happens as a result of the reduction in the termination rates for incoming calls, which presently cover the equivalent of the "line rental" element of the cost. Once these become negligible there should be no reason why the full cost of 080 calls from mobiles could not be met by the recipient. We do however wait to see if and how the mobile companies will make up their lost revenue.
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Re: Sim Only Deal
Reply #3 - Aug 7th, 2010 at 7:58pm
 
I am now a GiffGaff customer. I shall not say much just now until I get my other number ported.

Seems good to be true, and yes ive already called several 0800 numbers with 0p credit Wink
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Reply #4 - Jul 3rd, 2011 at 12:11am
 
Giffgaff offers Call Waiting and Call Divert, which is unusual with pay as you go services.
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Reply #5 - Aug 14th, 2011 at 2:32am
 
Dave wrote on Jul 3rd, 2011 at 12:11am:
Giffgaff offers Call Waiting and Call Divert, which is unusual with pay as you go services.


As do Family Mobile

http://www.familymobile.co.uk/services-overview

who also allow you to choose a number.
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Reply #6 - Aug 14th, 2011 at 2:36am
 
The fact that you can call freephone numbers for free on GG means you can get cheaper calls to certain destinations via services like http://www.18185.co.uk/mobilerates.php eg UK Landline Calls 1p a minute 5p connection.
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Reply #7 - Aug 14th, 2011 at 3:21pm
 
bigjohn wrote on Aug 14th, 2011 at 2:36am:
The fact that you can call freephone numbers for free on GG means you can get cheaper calls to certain destinations via services like http://www.18185.co.uk/mobilerates.php eg UK Landline Calls 1p a minute 5p connection.

And many overseas calls (e.g. Spain) for 4p connection + 1p/minute!
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Reply #8 - Aug 14th, 2011 at 3:24pm
 
bigjohn wrote on Aug 14th, 2011 at 2:36am:
The fact that you can call freephone numbers for free on GG means you can get cheaper calls to certain destinations via services like http://www.18185.co.uk/mobilerates.php eg UK Landline Calls 1p a minute 5p connection.

Have they caught on to this?

I would have thought that they won't allow 'freephone' dial through numbers to be free.
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Reply #9 - Aug 14th, 2011 at 5:44pm
 
Dave wrote on Aug 14th, 2011 at 3:24pm:
bigjohn wrote on Aug 14th, 2011 at 2:36am:
The fact that you can call freephone numbers for free on GG means you can get cheaper calls to certain destinations via services like http://www.18185.co.uk/mobilerates.php eg UK Landline Calls 1p a minute 5p connection.

Have they caught on to this?

I would have thought that they won't allow 'freephone' dial through numbers to be free.


They allow you to call UK freephone numbers irrespective of where they terminate.

They must be aware of the practice as its been mentioned on there forum quite a few times.

EG: http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Help-Ask-the-community-got-stuck/Cheap-Internat...
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Re: Giffgaff - Lack of itemisation of calls
Reply #10 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 12:06am
 
There is a long running giffgaff thread on online usage history. This has been running for over two years now and has been "accepted". Despite this, members are still waiting.

I believe that any telephone service should offer a method of viewing call records and with the information age we live in, this should be easier than ever to accomplish. It should be mandatory for providers to make such information available to subscribers.
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Reply #11 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 1:59pm
 
giff gaff is interesting and my sister uses it, however what has put me off is they get service outages and there is no way to auto renew the package.  It then rolls onto a expensive PAYG system if forget to renew.

Once they get auto renew sorted I may switch, although I do currently have a very good deal direct with O2.
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Reply #12 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 2:06pm
 
ihate0845 wrote on Apr 12th, 2012 at 1:59pm:
giff gaff is interesting and my sister uses it, however what has put me off is they get service outages and there is no way to auto renew the package.  It then rolls onto a expensive PAYG system if forget to renew.

Once they get auto renew sorted I may switch, although I do currently have a very good deal direct with O2.

I have read of issues where there have been issues with giffgaff's system. It is backed by O2 which must be a plus point.

Expensive pay as you go?? 10 pence per minute would seem to be quite low for pay as you go services.
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Reply #13 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 2:10pm
 
10p a minute is expensive.

by expensive I mean compared to packaged minutes.

giffgaff's business model seems to be to take advantage of people not renewing and hence auto switching to the more lucrative payg pricing.  its unique and I guess it works.
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Reply #14 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 2:20pm
 
ihate0845 wrote on Apr 12th, 2012 at 2:10pm:
10p a minute is expensive.

by expensive I mean compared to packaged minutes.

You said that giffgaff is an "expensive PAYG system". By definition on "pay as you go" you pay for your calls and with giffgaff you pay 10 pence per minute. Add-ons such as giffgaff "Goody Bags" are extra.

Looking around at other providers this would seem to be one of the lowest priced calls of any pay as you service. So my point stands.


ihate0845 wrote on Apr 12th, 2012 at 2:10pm:
giffgaff's business model seems to be to take advantage of people not renewing and hence auto switching to the more lucrative payg pricing.  its unique and I guess it works.

Is this any different from other pay as you go services which offer bundles that can be purchased on an occasional basis? Do others remind users?

It would seem that the sensible answer is for subscribers to set reminders on their mobile phones if they are not notified by their operator. It would be good to see operators notifying users, probably by text message.
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