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Rose Theatre, Kingston (08444 821 556)
Nov 6th, 2012 at 4:59pm
 
Hi - can anyone track down a landline equivalent for the Rose Theatre, Kingston (08444 821 556)? There is nothing on your database, and the "Stage Door" number on their website is useless - they don't answer any questions about their performances and can't  put you through to anyone who can help, they just tell you that you have to ring the 08444 number.
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Reply #1 - Nov 6th, 2012 at 11:54pm
 
Try also searching for 0844 482 1556.
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Reply #2 - Nov 7th, 2012 at 12:48pm
 
Hi

There`s a number 020 8939 4051 here http://www.kingstonguardian.co.uk/news/8876792.Prunella_Scales_and_Timothy_West_... to call if you want to be their friend. Sounds like they need all the friends they can get.
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Reply #3 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 12:51pm
 
catj wrote on Nov 6th, 2012 at 11:54pm:
Try also searching for 0844 482 1556.


That's the same number as the one I posted, just with the spaces in different places
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Reply #4 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 1:05pm
 
mainbass wrote on Nov 7th, 2012 at 12:48pm:
Hi

There`s a number 020 8939 4051 here http://www.kingstonguardian.co.uk/news/8876792.Prunella_Scales_and_Timothy_West_... to call if you want to be their friend. Sounds like they need all the friends they can get.


That number did offer to transfer me, thanks. Unfortunately, if the box office is engaged, they can't put you on hold or in a queue, you have to try again, but still that number does seem to be worth adding to your database.

Thanks again.

Dave
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Reply #5 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 1:07pm
 
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After years of ignoring govt. guidelines & RIPPING OFF Council Tax payers using 0845 numbers, Essex County Council changed to 0345 numbers on 2 November 2015
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Reply #6 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 1:17pm
 
Heinz wrote on Nov 9th, 2012 at 1:07pm:


That actually gets through to the same person who answers the phone if you dial  020 8939 4051!

So both  020 8939 4051 and 020 8546 8706 are worth adding to your database.

Also, I can now confirm that the person on those numbers did successfully transfer me to the box office in the end, so you can add them to the database as confirmed numbers.

Thanks for your help.

Dave
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Reply #7 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 1:57pm
 
Dave Rado wrote on Nov 9th, 2012 at 1:17pm:
That actually gets through to the same person who answers the phone if you dial  020 8939 4051!

So both  020 8939 4051 and 020 8546 8706 are worth adding to your database.

Also, I can now confirm that the person on those numbers did successfully transfer me to the box office in the end, so you can add them to the database as confirmed numbers.

Thanks for your help.

Dave

Thanks for confirming this. I've done as suggested and put an entry in the database with a note to say that it isn't for the box office but that they will put callers through.
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Reply #8 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 2:06pm
 
Dave Rado wrote on Nov 9th, 2012 at 12:51pm:
catj wrote on Nov 6th, 2012 at 11:54pm:
Try also searching for 0844 482 1556.

That's the same number as the one I posted, just with the spaces in different places.

Yes, it's the same digits, but putting that number in the correct format into a Google search yields a 50 fold increase in search results.
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Reply #9 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 1:46pm
 
Hi Everyone,

The phone number listed in the database is for the admin office, we're a small team and as we are now receiving quite a few phone calls I’m sorry to say we're going to have to stop transferring people to the box office.

Our Box Office number 08444 821 556 costs 3.5p a minute from a standard land line.

Or you can buy tickets from our website on rosetheatrekingston.org/whats-on

No fees apply for tickets booked in person.

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Reply #10 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 3:36pm
 
RoseTheatre wrote on Nov 14th, 2012 at 1:46pm:
Hi Everyone,

The phone number listed in the database is for the admin office, we're a small team and as we are now receiving quite a few phone calls I’m sorry to say we're going to have to stop transferring people to the box office.

Our Box Office number 08444 821 556 costs 3.5p a minute from a standard land line.

Or you can buy tickets from our website on rosetheatrekingston.org/whats-on

No fees apply for tickets booked in person.



Why do you want to make money on the phone calls you receive? If you can't make enough on your tickets themselves in order to break even, wouldn't it be more honest to put your ticket prices up slightly? Forcing people to pay just to make enquiries is unethical.
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Reply #11 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 5:55pm
 
RoseTheatre wrote on Nov 14th, 2012 at 1:46pm:
Hi Everyone,

The phone number listed in the database is for the admin office, we're a small team and as we are now receiving quite a few phone calls I’m sorry to say we're going to have to stop transferring people to the box office.

Our Box Office number 08444 821 556 costs 3.5p a minute from a standard land line.

Or you can buy tickets from our website on rosetheatrekingston.org/whats-on

No fees apply for tickets booked in person.

The entry in question has now been removed from the database.

The cost of calling the 0844 number is no where near as low as 3.5 pence per minute; that is a downright lie!

The forthcoming changes to non-geographic numbers are expected to mean that service users such as Rose Theatre Kingston will have to declare the "Service Charge" — that is the amount they benefit. The format proposed by Ofcom is "Booking tickets will cost 5 pence per minute plus your phone company's access charge." The "5 pence per minute" is the level of Service Charge which will be set by number block.

At the present time users frequently quote the cost of calling from a BT line. This is a wholly atypical example as BT is uniquely restrained from adding its own Access Charge due to regulation imposed in the days when it originated most telephone calls. This is a retailer selling a product where it cannot any mark-up for itself (other than a tiny regulated amount).

Rose Theatre Kingston incorrectly claims on its website that the cost of calling its 0844 482 number from a BT line is 3.5 pence per minute. It is infact a g6 number, as set out in the BT Price List. This is the highest rate for 0844 numbers. The cost of calling g6 numbers from BT lines is 5.105 pence per minute, plus a Call Set-up Fee of 13.1 pence.
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Reply #12 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 6:21pm
 
Dave Rado wrote on Nov 14th, 2012 at 3:36pm:
Why do you want to make money on the phone calls you receive? If you can't make enough on your tickets themselves in order to break even, wouldn't it be more honest to put your ticket prices up slightly? Forcing people to pay just to make enquiries is unethical.

More than that, I want to know why you allow mobile phone companies to pocket 20 to 35 pence per minute from each of your callers just for the sake of the 5 pence per minute that you benefit by?

If you were using an 01, 02 or 03 number, many of your callers would have their calls to you within their inclusive minutes and pay nothing extra; and for pay as you go users they would pay about half the amount they currently do.
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Reply #13 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 6:35pm
 
catj wrote on Nov 14th, 2012 at 6:21pm:
If you were using an 01, 02 or 03 number, many of your callers would have their calls to you within their inclusive minutes and pay nothing extra; and for pay as you go users they would pay about half the amount they currently do.

The "neutral" non-geographic number range is 03 and was introduced in 2007. Any user that does not wish to impose a Service Charge on callers can move to this range where, as catj says, calls will come from inclusive minutes/bundles, just as 01/02 calls do.

Now is the time for users to think about whether they will be happy to declare their Service Charge when the changes come about in a year or two's time. If they aren't, then 03 is the way to go.

The 0344 prefix is where users of equivalent 0844 numbers can migrate to. All 03 numbers are charged the same and all landline, mobile and payphone providers are known to be in compliance with the rules on these charges.

030x numbers are available to certain organisations, which includes registered charities, or any organisation or individual can have a 033x number.
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Reply #14 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 8:07pm
 
This might be a point to reflect on some stats. Of course these are wild assumptions and estimates:

I have no idea what percentage of the seats are booked by phone. Of course, the rest are booked via web and in person.

For phone bookings, assume a third each for landline, contract mobile and pay as you go mobile. Assume an average 3 minute wait in the queue and 3 minute transaction.

So for every 100 seats sold by phone, the cinema has gained 100 x 6 x 5 pence in service charge (about 30 quid), but the callers have paid (33 x 6 x 5 pence) + (33 x 6 x 35 pence) + (33 x 6 x 10 pence) extra (about 99 quid) compared to the call cost had they called an 01, 02 or 03 number.

The phone companies pocket nearly 70 quid from your 100 customers because you chose a number that the phone companies charge a large access charge to call.

I think the vast majority of companies using 0844 numbers are not aware of the extent that their customers are being ripped off by these calls.
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