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Ian01 Supreme Member Offline Posts: 767 Joined: Feb 28^th, 2015	GP practices still using premium rate numbers. Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:13pm	Print Post
	In tomorrow's papers: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3530844/GPs-cashing-patients-phone-calls... Was also featured on 'What the papers say' both on Sky News and BBC News Channel on Friday evening. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/gp-surgeries-ignore-nhs-ban-7719878 https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/659512/GPs-charge-sick-patients-premium-price-... http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/506901/GPs-charge-sick-patients-top-...
	« Last Edit: Apr 9^th, 2016 at 1:50am by Ian01 »

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Ian01 Supreme Member Offline Posts: 767 Joined: Feb 28^th, 2015	Re: GP practices still using premium rate numbers. Reply #1 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 1:11am	Print Post
	http://news.sky.com/story/1675402/saturdays-national-newspaper-front-pages See 11 minutes in... http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07653pr
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kasg Senior Member Offline Posts: 320 Location: West Sussex Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2008 Gender:	Re: GP practices still using premium rate numbers. Reply #2 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 11:28am	Print Post
	Ian01 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:13pm: In tomorrow's papers: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3530844/GPs-cashing-patients-phone-calls... Quote: Last night a spokesman for the Department of Health said: ‘All premium phone contracts will soon come to an end and NHS England is monitoring progress in phasing them out.’ That old chestnut again. Also, this extremely misleading piece in the article: Quote: If you call an 0844 number from a landline, you will be charged an amount similar to dialling a local number which all of the 34 listed surgeries also provide.
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derrick Supreme Member Offline Posts: 1,124 Joined: Mar 23^rd, 2005	Re: GP practices still using premium rate numbers. Reply #3 - Apr 10^th, 2016 at 9:10am	Print Post
	kasg wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 11:28am: Also, this extremely misleading piece in the article: Quote: If you call an 0844 number from a landline, you will be charged an amount similar to dialling a local number which all of the 34 listed surgeries also provide. That is not misleading, it is a downright and utter lie. .


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SilentCallsVictim Supreme Member Offline aka NHS.Patient, DH_fairtelecoms Posts: 2,494 Joined: Jun 3^rd, 2005	Re: GP practices still using premium rate numbers. Reply #4 - Apr 10^th, 2016 at 9:36am	Print Post
	derrick wrote on Apr 10^th, 2016 at 9:10am: kasg wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 11:28am: Also, this extremely misleading piece in the article: Quote: If you call an 0844 number from a landline, you will be charged an amount similar to dialling a local number which all of the 34 listed surgeries also provide. That is not misleading, it is a downright and utter lie. The journalist wanted to balance the article by including the views of all parties, including the Department of Health and NHS England, the Patients Association and practices including on our list. Regrettably, we have to accept that, as with all newspaper articles, this is one reason why it includes many false statements. We must however draw comfort from the fact that the general sense of the article, and much of the content, was making a point with which we agree. Campaigning efforts against the misuse of 084 numbers have not been totally successful, but together we have achieved an enormous amount. All should take credit for their part in this (continuing) battle.

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kasg Senior Member Offline Posts: 320 Location: West Sussex Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2008 Gender:	Re: GP practices still using premium rate numbers. Reply #5 - Apr 11^th, 2016 at 12:36pm	Print Post
	derrick wrote on Apr 10^th, 2016 at 9:10am: kasg wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 11:28am: Also, this extremely misleading piece in the article: Quote: If you call an 0844 number from a landline, you will be charged an amount similar to dialling a local number which all of the 34 listed surgeries also provide. That is not misleading, it is a downright and utter lie. It is untrue, but calling it a lie implies it was deliberate and it wouldn't have been, on the part of the journalist. Of course, before the introduction of the access charge, it could have been true for some BT subscribers but that's as close as it gets.


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derrick Supreme Member Offline Posts: 1,124 Joined: Mar 23^rd, 2005	Re: GP practices still using premium rate numbers. Reply #6 - Apr 13^th, 2016 at 10:12am	Print Post
	kasg wrote on Apr 11^th, 2016 at 12:36pm: derrick wrote on Apr 10^th, 2016 at 9:10am: kasg wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 11:28am: Also, this extremely misleading piece in the article: Quote: If you call an 0844 number from a landline, you will be charged an amount similar to dialling a local number which all of the 34 listed surgeries also provide. That is not misleading, it is a downright and utter lie. It is untrue, but calling it a lie implies it was deliberate and it wouldn't have been, on the part of the journalist. Of course, before the introduction of the access charge, it could have been true for some BT subscribers but that's as close as it gets. Semantics, an untruth is a lie, if we use your take re the journalist then it is sloppy research/journalism at best. Talking about history,(which there is no need to), re BT, 0844 numbers never have been, (and still aren't), charged at the same rate as 01/02/03 and have never been included in packages/bundles, ergo could never have been "charged an amount similar to dialling a local number ", also no mention in the article about BT, so mostly supposition on your part. .


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Ian01 Supreme Member Offline Posts: 767 Joined: Feb 28^th, 2015	Re: GP practices still using premium rate numbers. Reply #7 - Apr 13^th, 2016 at 11:37am	Print Post
	Since 1 July 2015 we have the clarity that calls to 084 and 087 numbers are (almost) never cheaper than calls to 01, 02 and 03 numbers. The message is taking some time to propagate.


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