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DISCUSSION FORUM - FORUM DOWNTIME THIS WEEKEND
Nov 11th, 2005 at 6:59pm
 
As part of the websites ongoing development, the discussion forum area will be unavailable for a period of time this weekend, whilst upgrades are made.

Due to the nature of the upgrades, the exact time the forums will go offline will not be known until nearer the time.  The time will be posted as soon as it is known, although this may mean that not much notice will be given.

We will post a message once all upgrades have been completed.

During this period, all other areas of the website will function as usual.

Sorry for any inconvience this may cause.

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Reply #1 - Nov 13th, 2005 at 2:54am
 
Daniel,

I notice you have introduced the new YaBB V2.1 forum software but must comment as follows:-

1.  All my existing thread subscriptions have been lost, which is surely going to be a real killer for the discussions here if this cannot be overcome.  And I cannot think of a worse time for the discussion here to be killed off in this way.

2. A notification update email message I had sent by the old forum software still only linked me to Page 1 of a multi page thread in the new forum although I know that YaBB V2 does have the facility to send emails with notification links that take you to the current active page from my membership of the www.radioandtelly.co.uk forum which upgraded to YaBB about three weeks ago.

Are you working on the thread subscription issue?  As I am sure you would agree forum members will not find it acceptable for all their message subscriptions to be lost.

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Reply #2 - Nov 13th, 2005 at 4:29am
 
NGM, you could try remembering what you've said.

You're making it sound like people can't read any thread they want to.
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Reply #3 - Nov 13th, 2005 at 6:47am
 
lost all my subscriptions to the threads as well. Although I was only watching a couple of threads, so I havent lost that much.

Plus I think the FOI thread should be number 4 in the list after cheep call providers but before site related.
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Reply #4 - Nov 13th, 2005 at 8:46am
 
Must be too early in the morning for my brain - but what exactly are these 'subscriptions' being discussed here?
Apologies if it's a daft question!!

ps I'm finding the text not as easy to read as before, seems 'lighter', but maybe that's just age (mine, not the text!).
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Reply #5 - Nov 13th, 2005 at 9:39am
 
Things I've noticed:-
  • Subscriptions (as pointed out mc661 & NGM) are lost
  • Text size seems smaller & lighter (as pointed out by firestop).  I personally find a default font/text size of Arial 12 is easier to read (assuming this can be changed).
  • Signatures that used the code 'Glow' no longer appear to work (I noticed Dave's signature was one)
  • Links don't appear bold (so as to highlight them more)
  • In the search page, is it possible to change the default '
    This post was made in the last...
    ' from 'Week' to possibly '(all posts)' or 'Year'?
  • Is it possible to change the
    'Display how many results?
    ' from '15' to a much higher number like '100'.

You may need to install the Board Search add-on.

This would then mean for those members that do bother to do a search, then changing the defaults to a much higher number would ensure they are more likely to get a search result and therefore/hopefully not bother to start a new topic.  I believe not many people look at the default search criteria when searching.  
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Reply #6 - Nov 13th, 2005 at 10:31am
 
Now I do feel thick - everyone moaning about 'lost subscriptions' and I don't even know what they're on about!

Is it just for 'supreme & superior' members only?  Must I aspire to these dizzy heights before all is revealed?  Will I need to learn a funny handshake and roll one trouser leg up?

We need to be told. Wink Embarrassed
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Reply #7 - Nov 13th, 2005 at 10:52am
 
firestop wrote on Nov 13th, 2005 at 10:31am:
Now I do feel thick - everyone moaning about 'lost subscriptions' and I don't even know what they're on about!

Is it just for 'supreme & superior' members only?  Must I aspire to these dizzy heights before all is revealed?  Will I need to learn a funny handshake and roll one trouser leg up?

We need to be told. Wink Embarrassed

There's a 'Notify of replies' link at the top of the thread.  Click on that to 'subscribe' to a thread and you can then click to get an e-mail to tell you when anyone replies to that particular thread.

There's also a 'Check this if you wish to be notified of replies to this topic' box at the bottom of the Post Reply page (i.e. the page you type in). That does the same thng - 'subscribes' you to a thread.
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Reply #8 - Nov 13th, 2005 at 11:17am
 
Many thanks, Heinz.  Now I understand, just never heard the term before.
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Reply #9 - Nov 13th, 2005 at 11:39am
 
firestop wrote on Nov 13th, 2005 at 11:17am:
Many thanks, Heinz.  Now I understand, just never heard the term before.


When you reply to any thread/topic there is a "Check this is you wish to be notified of replies to this topic" option.  Thereafter you continue to get emails when there are further message posts in that thread.  There were 70 or 80 threads to which I was thus subscribed.

Daniel said he wasn't going to switch over to YaBB V2 until this problem was overcome but now he has done anyway regardless.

So now I don't get any update emails when there are new posts in topics/threads that I was watching.
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Reply #10 - Nov 13th, 2005 at 11:50am
 
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So now I don't get any update emails when there are new posts in topics/threads that I was watching.
It's not the best solution but the next easiest way of re-subscribing to threads is to go into the threads again and click on 'Notify of Replies' either at the top or bottom of the thread.

I've just been searching on Yabbforum (the makers of YaBB) and it appears it is a problem for which they don't know how to get around.  It is annoying but isn't a major problem in comparison to losing threads or PM's etc.

NGM, didn't you also say radioandtelly also had same problem?
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Reply #11 - Nov 13th, 2005 at 11:53am
 
bbb_uk wrote on Nov 13th, 2005 at 11:50am:
I've just been searching on Yabbforum (the makers of YaBB) and it appears it is a problem for which they don't know how to get around as yet.  It is annoying but isn't a major problem in comparison to losing threads or PM's etc.

If you were subscribed to 80 or so threads as I was then it is a very significant issue.

I can't understand why these records can't be migrated across as the info is clearly there to transfer in the forum database.
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Reply #12 - Nov 13th, 2005 at 12:04pm
 
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If you were subscribed to 80 or so threads as I was then it is a very significant issue.
I agree if you have loads.  I personally don't know how you kept up with these.  You must have got loads of emails on a daily basis.  lol.
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I can't understand why these records can't be migrated across as the info is clearly there to transfer in the forum database.
I agree here completely but if the forum makers don't appear to have found a way around then what can one do?

Daniel mentioned here that to send out a mass email informing people of the consultation then it is best done from the new upgraded forum.  I assume this is probably a feature that wasn't present on the old existing one.  Therefore, in my opinion, I'm glad he's now upgraded so that hopefully this mass email can be sent out.  Had he hold out until this notification problem was solved then this may have been too late for a mass email to all members.
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Reply #13 - Nov 13th, 2005 at 12:15pm
 
A lot of the threads had become dormant so did not send me lots of new messages on a daily basis.  However every now and then someone added a new message to a thread that had been quiet for a few weeks.

I can't see how YaBB can conisder V2 to be a full release version if no satisfactory migration path from YaBB V1 on thread subscriptions is available. Angry
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Reply #14 - Nov 13th, 2005 at 12:26pm
 
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I can't see how YaBB can conisder V2 to be a full release version if no satisfactory migration path from YaBB V1 on thread subscriptions is available. Angry
It does seem weird that they haven't found a way around this but from my experience (in my field) it is very rare that when an upgrade/conversion is done, it's done without a problem.  This is true not just of forum software but other software as well.  I noticed VBulletin forum software that you actually have to pay for, also had problems with conversion/upgrading, etc.

Like I said I agree it's annoying but as I said earlier holding off until it can be sorted would make it too late for a mass email especially when its not known when (or indeed if) the notification problem could be sorted.  At this moment in time, as I'm sure you'll agree, a mass email to forum members about the consultation is more important and worth the upgrade especially as there is only 22 days left.
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