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Reply #15 - May 18th, 2006 at 7:17am
 
Lookup Irish phone number allocations here.

Put 01 in STD / Access Code field and 4502655 in Specific Number field.  Wink

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STD / Access Code Start Range End Range Licensee Location Designation Status
01 4500000 4509999 Eircom Dublin Central Geographic Allocated


The BSH number is therefore definately a geographical Dublin number. I've just tried it and it is 1p/min with 1899. To write such a number in the form 01450 2655 (with a space after 01450) is incorrect and I think that it is leading to some confusion.

As an example, take a London number. The code for London is 020 with an eight-digit local number. Thus, numbers should be written 020 71234567. Now write the number as 02071 234567. The number is still the same (as a whole), but to identify the STD code isn't made easy by the space being in the wrong place.

The same applies with this example. The code for Dublin is 01 with a seven-digit local number. This is proven by the lookup of that number, above.
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Reply #16 - May 18th, 2006 at 9:21am
 
From the database when looking up Microsoft, 0870 6010100,  +353 14502113.

If it is a UK No, why put the international dial code in?
I have just tried dialing, 01 4502113 using Voipcheap, and it does not dial but says" other party ended call"

However I have just tried 00353 14502113, using Voipcheap and it has connected as a free call, all is still confusing
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Reply #17 - May 18th, 2006 at 12:43pm
 
derrick wrote on May 18th, 2006 at 9:21am:
From the database when looking up Microsoft, 0870 6010100,  +353 14502113.

If it is a UK No, why put the international dial code in?
I have just tried dialing, 01 4502113 using Voipcheap, and it does not dial but says" other party ended call"

However I have just tried 00353 14502113, using Voipcheap and it has connected as a free call, all is still confusing
But it's not a UK number. 

Dublin is in Ireland - hence the international code for Ireland followed by the Dublin number without its leading zero (because you'll be dialling from abroad) being quoted.
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Reply #18 - May 18th, 2006 at 1:05pm
 
http://www.microsoft.com/ireland/contact/default.asp
For general or Sales and Marketing queries call us on 1850 940 940/+353 1 450 2113

So they have another contact for the same office, however, 1450 is their "LOCALL" service, equivalent to our 0845.
eg Customer Service LoCall: 1850 673 322 This is NOT another number for them, just from a site advertising the cost
Perhaps they operate there as here, ie 0870 from UK, but +44 ******* from abroad.

Would have been nice to know it was Microsoft from the start, perhaps we could have other numbers
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Reply #19 - May 18th, 2006 at 4:33pm
 
Heinz wrote on May 18th, 2006 at 12:43pm:


Dublin is in Ireland - hence the international code for Ireland followed by the Dublin number without its leading zero (because you'll be dialling from abroad) being quoted.



Yes but my original Q was what is the cost of the call, it has now gone all round the houses to eventually find out it is N ireland,(S Ireland has different charges) I now know that by using 1899 it is going to cost 0p per minute, I foound that out by dialing the Inter No. via Voice cheap, as in my post #16
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Reply #20 - May 18th, 2006 at 4:34pm
 
a very nice man wrote on May 18th, 2006 at 1:05pm:
Would have been nice to know it was Microsoft from the start, perhaps we could have other numbers


Sorry about that, but someone could have asked, I did mention it in popst #16
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Reply #21 - May 18th, 2006 at 4:38pm
 
derrick wrote on May 18th, 2006 at 4:33pm:
Yes but my original Q was what is the cost of the call, it has now gone all round the houses to eventually find out it is N ireland,(S Ireland has different charges) I now know that by using 1899 it is going to cost 0p per minute, I foound that out by dialing the Inter No. via Voice cheap, as in my post #16

A Northern Ireland number is a UK one. There is now one code for NI, 028 with eight-digit local numbers. I don't remember you quoting or saying that it is a NI number. I'm totally confused because I thought that you were confusing Republic of Ireland numbers with the UK numbering system. Now, are you saying that you wish to dial an 028 (+4428) number?
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Reply #22 - May 18th, 2006 at 4:41pm
 
derrick wrote on May 18th, 2006 at 4:34pm:
a very nice man wrote on May 18th, 2006 at 1:05pm:
Would have been nice to know it was Microsoft from the start, perhaps we could have other numbers


Sorry about that, but someone could have asked, I did mention it in popst #16

I found out it was Microsoft when I rang it. I also Googled and found this out. So are you trying to contact Neff or Microsoft? And do you have a Northern Ireland number?  Undecided Undecided
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Reply #23 - May 18th, 2006 at 4:46pm
 
derrick wrote on May 17th, 2006 at 12:33pm:
Hi,

Can someone please explain this from the 1899 site?      

ireland (landline)      1
ireland [national rate] (landline & mobile)      15

prices are pence per minute, but what is the difference between  (landline) and [national rate], besides the obvious 14p,  the number I am wanting to dial is, +353 14502113, and obviously there is a big difference between the 2 charges.

Thanks



The number I wanted the cost of,was in my first post,(quoted above) also the mention of Ireland,there should have been no confusion, if I dial 0035314502113, it goes through to Microsoft,if 353 is the code Inter code for Ireland, how come I did not dial an 028 number as suggested in the following quote.

Dave wrote on May 18th, 2006 at 4:38pm:
A Northern Ireland number is a UK one. There is now one code for NI, 028 with eight-digit local numbers. I don't remember you quoting or saying that it is a NI number. I'm totally confused because I thought that you were confusing Republic of Ireland numbers with the UK numbering system. Now, are you saying that you wish to dial an 028 (+4428) number?


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Reply #24 - May 18th, 2006 at 4:51pm
 
Dave wrote on May 18th, 2006 at 4:41pm:
I found out it was Microsoft when I rang it. I also Googled and found this out. So are you trying to contact Neff or Microsoft? And do you have a Northern Ireland number?  Undecided Undecided



The number I am trying to dial is,as mentioned several times, Microsoft 08706010100, the database gives +353 14502113, this has been identified as an irish number, these are the only numbers I have, when dialing the number, 0035314502113, I get through to Microsoft menu, I am asuming it is in Ireland, I have not dialled a number beginning 028.
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Reply #25 - May 18th, 2006 at 5:06pm
 
Amongst other things that helped with the confusion, eg misplaced space in STD (Guilty me), you did say in an earlier post
"Yes but my original Q was what is the cost of the call, it has now gone all round the houses to eventually find out it is N ireland,(S Ireland has different charges)"
As everybody eventually worked out, 00 353 is Southern Ireland,  1 is the Dublin area code. Microsoft is based in Dublin.

I think you were the first to put Northern Ireland on this page
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Reply #26 - May 18th, 2006 at 5:16pm
 
derrick wrote on May 18th, 2006 at 4:46pm:
The number I wanted the cost of,was in my first post,(quoted above) also the mention of Ireland,there should have been no confusion, if I dial 0035314502113, it goes through to Microsoft,if 353 is the code Inter code for Ireland, how come I did not dial an 028 number as suggested in the following quote.

Dave wrote on May 18th, 2006 at 4:38pm:
A Northern Ireland number is a UK one. There is now one code for NI, 028 with eight-digit local numbers. I don't remember you quoting or saying that it is a NI number. I'm totally confused because I thought that you were confusing Republic of Ireland numbers with the UK numbering system. Now, are you saying that you wish to dial an 028 (+4428) number?


You made the following statement that the number is infact for Northern Ireland (as opposed to the Republic). That is what is confusing and why I brought up an 028 number!!
derrick wrote on May 18th, 2006 at 4:33pm:
Yes but my original Q was what is the cost of the call, it has now gone all round the houses to eventually find out it is N ireland,(S Ireland has different charges) I now know that by using 1899 it is going to cost 0p per minute, I foound that out by dialing the Inter No. via Voice cheap, as in my post #16

The telephone numbering system in Northern Ireland is part of the UK's, so think of it like dialling another town in the UK. The numbering for the Republic of Ireland (Southern) is separate; it is another country, in the same way that France, Germany and so on are.

To call a Northern Ireland number from anywhere else in the UK, you dial 028 followed by the eight-digit local number (in a similar way that you would call London, i.e. 020 71234567). To call a number in the Irish Republic you must dial 00353 in front of the number as it is another country. 01 (i.e. +353 1) numbers in the Irish Republic are geographical Dublin ones, as I identified in a previous posting.
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Reply #27 - May 18th, 2006 at 7:56pm
 
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Although dialling an Irish geographical number would cost 3p connection and 1p/minute using 1899 from a BT residential landline, the Irish code (0)1450 is a non-geographical number (AFAIAA, equivalent to the UK's 0845 being [supposedly] 'local rate').
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Reply #28 - May 18th, 2006 at 10:10pm
 
Looks like Heinz has turned into a mime. Quick someone rescue him from the imaginary glass box before he starts having a push pull contest with a balloon. Grin
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Reply #29 - May 19th, 2006 at 9:44am
 
Dave wrote on May 18th, 2006 at 5:16pm:
To call a Northern Ireland number from anywhere else in the UK, you dial 028 followed by the eight-digit local number (in a similar way that you would call London, i.e. 020 71234567). To call a number in the Irish Republic you must dial 00353 in front of the number as it is another country. 01 (i.e. +353 1) numbers in the Irish Republic are geographical Dublin ones, as I identified in a previous posting.



OK, apologies for any previous confusion,allow me to ask again in,hopefully a more coherant manner.

I (might) need to phone microsoft, on 08706010100, the geo number in the database is,+353 14502113, this implies that they are based in S Ireland and will not be free using 1899, as the call is answered in less than 1 ring using Voipcheap, it is impossible to get the auto tarrif message for the call cost using 1899.

From my first post, original Q, still not answered,

Can someone please explain this from the 1899 site?      

ireland (landline)      1
ireland [national rate] (landline & mobile)      15

prices are pence per minute, but what is the difference between  (landline) and [national rate], besides the obvious 14p,  the number I am wanting to dial is, +353 14502113, and obviously there is a big difference between the 2 charges.

Thanks


Whilst the call (00353 14502113) is free using Voipcheap,(and I have no credit on this acc,so am limited to 1 min calls),am I right in saying that it will not be free on 1899? if so the original Q (above in red)  is still relevant, or to put it another way, what would be the price per minute to call Microsoft in Ireland using 1899? bearing in mind they have an 0870 number which will cost me,(Mon-Fri daytime with BT) 7.5p per minute,4p per minute using 18185, as this is an English number how come the database "geo" number is international?
If no one has the answer, so be it at least Itried.

Dave, yes I know about the 01/02 numbers as it is quite obvious, but if some one has a difinitive answer,I would be gratefull.


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