saynoto118800 wrote on Aug 13^th, 2009 at 4:46pm:


You have made two spectacular blunders here.

First, your knowledge of phone tariffs is incompetent. The claim that 0800 numbers are charged at a so-called your standard rate from mobiles is complete nonsense. They are never included in inclusive minutes, and will always be charged a different rate from standard calls, though BT Mobile has them free.

Second, your personal attack on NGM's integrity is bizarre and absurd. He is one of the most devoted and non-conformist observers of double-standards in telecoms industries, and the very fantasy he might have a secret and undeclared interest in any such company, an accusation he has been known to level at others from time to time, sometimes wrongly (including me), is one of the most improbable and hysterically funny concepts I've seen for a long time.

I've read a bit more, and changed my mind about according to 118800 the benefit on any doubt, which my reply above to David at Mobile118 implied.

But as it is about 118800, I've posted on the thread about that

Hi, Barry here,

Life insurance is not something I have ever sold, no.
My background is in the Air Cargo business (Air Cess until 2001) when the business was sold and I now own and operate a number of smaller Air Cargo services to various organisations. I have no connection with the Telecoms industry, other than this project.

I travel extensively throughout europe and the UAE and get continually get bombarded with text spam - 118800 was the final straw for me.
Currently having a bit of spare time on my hands means I can get my teeth stuck into this Privacy Campaign, working with the other guys to offer a service that 100% serves a legitimate purpose.

Kind regards,

Barry Issell

www.SayNoTo118800.co.uk
66-68 St.Loyes Street
Bedford MK40 1EZ

Your post makes for interesting reading but I was just curious as to why you only offer your opinions on 118800 and not on the motivations of those who have set up to saynoto118800.  I would have thought you of all people would be likely to have a pretty shrewd idea of who Mr Issell and his colleagues may be and of their real motivations.

You are absolutely right, but as I re read my post it did seem like war and peace so I edited it down. However I will endeavor to tackle the subject 'Barry and saynoto118800'.

Firstly, the following comments are my own. I don’t know Barry or his site so wouldn’t want to accuse him of doing anything unlawful without knowing all the full facts. I also don’t want this to turn personal on Barry, but I do feel its important he knows how we feel.

Do I trust Barry or what his site is promoting? No I don’t. After watching the video with my team we all felt it seemed very dodgy and very staged.  My opinion is Barry has seen a business opportunity and is trying to sell this site as a legitimate solution. You are always replying on this forum Barry, the energy you put into promoting your site is bordering on the unhealthy,  and I don’t honestly believe you are not trying to gain something financially or otherwise from this venture.

Question:

What would happen if after two years I wanted to cancel my safe number? Do I honestly believe you will still be around to cancel it for me? No I don’t.

You spoke about receiving text spam abroad and being charged for it. How many SMS do you honestly think you will receive everyday with people trying to contact you?

You talk about legal cases like you are almost wishing it to happen. Do you really have any experience of how much it will cost you and the pressure you will be under? Your saving grace maybe 118 800 do not wish for any more bad publicity  but I wouldn’t count on it.

You mention about 3i 118 800 having 16 million numbers. They  claim to have 14 million which I believe is widely exaggerated. I think its nearer 6 and how many of them are still live bearing in mind pay as you go and business customers? And how many more will opt out as soon as they can?

Finally, 118 800 will re launch, there will be another out-cry, they will go bust. What this will leave is sites like mobile118.co.uk that collect numbers from people who wish to share numbers and not annoy all the people who don’t providing a free service for people to find mobile numbers. Opt in is the only way forward.

Best Regards

David

saynoto118800 wrote on Aug 13^th, 2009 at 10:45pm:


Any chance of a transcript, for those of us who browse with flash and speakers turned off  so as to avoid disturbing the rest of the house..?

The fact that SayNoTo118800 is predicated largely on the idea of saving you the cost of roamed text spam when overseas when in reality there is no charge for incoming text messages with any UK mobile company when roaming abroad tells us everything we need to know about the competence and credibility of the people behind SayNoTo118800.  If they knew what they were doing they would concentrate on unwanted phone calls overseas where you are paying incoming charges and thus can be a real problem.

The bottom line is I have a strong 6th sense that lets me spot Dodgy Geezers at a very early stage and after watching a couple of saynoto118800 videos on YouTube that 6th sense has been triggered and alerted me to the kind of organisation I am almost certainly dealing with.

Hi, 'Bazza' here

NGMsGhost, I do have more than one office and depending on the time of day and where I am in the world, will dictate attire worn - apologies for that.

My business credibilty may be lost with yourself - however fortunately I don't appear to have that problem with anyone else I have the pleasure of dealing with in business - so congratulations to you in that respect.

The 'bumper sticker' you refer to would look a little out of place on any of my vehicle bumpers - hence why it got stuck it on the side of a filing cabinet. Not that that has any relevance whatsoever to the topic in hand..

Barry Issell
www.SayNoTo118800.co.uk
66-68 St.Loyes Street
Bedford MK40 1EZ