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Given the typical expected socio economic grouping and educational level of the average payphone box user I am sure they would of course have no trouble at all with any of this?!

I suppose it might be just a little simpler though if on their headline page for Paybox call pricing BT could have simply said something like "tough luck mate we have decided to do you over on the 0845 call pricing by charging you a huge wedge and not even giving you a cheaper rate for 0845 calls than 0870 calls like what we do when you is back home in doors"?

If anyone wishes to make further comments on this matter I believe that paul.hendron@bt.com is the current head of BT's payphone division.

You surely aren't seriously telling me Dave that you believe the full BT price list is an acceptable document for ordinary telephone consumers to have to grapple with?

see "Stutter Stutter"

I've saved it for posterity ...

Listen to the interview here 

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Well the 33.33333% reduction in call cost per minute for these calls is better than nothing but not that much to write home about though as

(a) the little - didn't even switch to using a normal 0845 local rate number at 3p per minute (a 60% reduction) and are now using an 0844 code actually only intended for dialup ISP services and not in any way industry standard for this kind of call

(b) Its still 4400% more expensive for a 15 minute call than a call to a geographic number using call18866.co.uk and infinity times more expensive than on BT Option 3

But as You and Yours only like "keep it simple" vox pop type topics for their rather wide ranging audience I reckon we should now try to shoot down Mr Paul Hendron, General Manager of BT Payphones (paul.hendron@bt.com) for his division's digraceful decision to charge 11p per minute **AT ALL TIMES** for 0870 and 0845 calls (even though the call termination rate for 0870 falls to under 1p a minute at the weekend compared to 5p in the week) when the BT main board has just put in a submission to Ofcom saying that 0845 and 0870 revenue sharing should be banned.

I reckon You and Yours should also get back that nasty little man from the scam phone equipment company to grill him about people who have to use payphones paying 11p per minute at the weekend  (Saturday morning) compared to something a lot less on a BT landline (not sure what they charge on a BT line for 0844 at the weekend but must be close to 1p per minute).

I also think they should suggest that BT put in big lettering on the box of every BT Payphone "calls starting 01 and 02 cost 30p for for 15 minutes but 084x and 087x calls cost £1.64 for 15 minutes"!

The proposed 0844 number cost more than a 0870 number from a call box.  The  0844 range to be used cost 10p for  43 seconds plus a 10p connection charge.  0870 cost  10p for 55 seconds plus 10p connection.

NGM

I agree with your final point re:call boxes.

Strongly disagree with the guff about housewives, not true, some of us are retired. And it is sexist, not the right forum I think?

However, as the numbers will become illegal in seven days time. who is going to inform the punters that their doctors number has changed?

Are they going to dial the number listed in the telephone book 0870? Are they to redirected and at what cost? If they dial 0870 in the first place how much is that to cost?

Or is the GP going to have to write to everyone of his patients advising of the new number?

That should make NEG very popular?

Is the best solution to go back to theirgeograhical number?

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What housewives are they?  I can only find mention of housewives now in your own post.  As one of the listeners I know very well is actually male and unemployed I can't imagine that I would surely ever have written such a thing.

Regarding the old numbers I imagine they will continue to leave the 0870 numbers functioning as well or they will put an announcement on them saying redial 0844...  They may even charge patients for that announcement.

But do you realise that if 0844 is 5p per minute at all times this means they will be 150% more expensive than the old 0870 number on a Saturday and 400% more expensive than a normal 0845 local rate BT number on a Saturday.  The NHS aren't going to like that when its pointed out to them. As I hope somebody here will do.

I think someone needs to email both You and Yours and our friend Mr Stoate, the Doctor MP, to tell them.  But better one of you than me.  Journalists don't like to feel they are acting as a vehicle for just one person's campaign.  Much better if a whole lot of us start pestering them.