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Reply #225 - May 31st, 2009 at 12:15am
 
http://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/files/docs/CT230309.pdf

West Yorkshire Police
Meeting: COMMAND TEAM
Venue: CONFERENCE ROOM A, ADMIN 1, FORCE HEADQUARTERS
Date: MONDAY 23 MARCH 2009

ITEM 6: TELEPHONE NUMBER FOR THE FORCE
Summary of Discussion:

ACC Mr Evans presented a paper with a recommendation to change the non-emergency telephone number for the force. ACC Mr Evans informed members that the migration to an 0345 contact number for the force had been discussed previously given the changing environment in respect of BT and other providers charging for 0845 numbers. There was wider discussion in respect of contact numbers for divisional helpdesks and whether there should be one contact number for the force. The introduction of a new telephony system was also considered and whether the use of autoattendant facility was the way forward. It was felt that the decision on changing the non-emergency telephone number should be part of a wider overarching telephony strategy. ACC Mr Evans agreed to bring back to Command Team a paper which addressed the issues raised.

Decision:
For an overarching telephony strategy to be developed and presented to Command Team for consideration.
Action by:
ACC Mr Parkinson and ACO Mr Brook.
By When:
Future Command Team Meeting.
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Reply #226 - Jun 3rd, 2009 at 9:18pm
 
Source: Cambridgeshire Police

http://www.cambs.police.uk/about/foi/classes/Minutes/FEB060109.pdf

Meeting of Force Executive Board
6 January 2009

[…]

Change of Number for non-emergency calls
Referring to action 15 regarding the change of number for non-emergency calls it was noted that both the 0300 and the 0345 number had been procured. The Chief Constable indicated that the 0345 number would be used as it was the closest one to the current 0845 number. The changes would take place in April 2009. It was noted that if the 0845 number was used the call would be automatically redirected to the 0345 number. In the meantime, in slower time the number would be changed on stationery etc as new supplies were ordered.


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Reply #227 - Jun 14th, 2009 at 12:34am
 
Source: Kingston upon Hull City Council

Date:
Thursday, 16th April, 2009
Time:
2.05 p.m.
Place:
Council Chamber, Guildhall, Hull

[…]

Councillor McCobb commented that a number of years ago the telephone numbers for people to contact the police were changed from local to 0845 numbers.  After that changeover, there was a particular backlash from residents trying to report crime.  There were two reasons for that.  Firstly, there was the increased charges, and secondly, there was major issues to do with call handling.  A number of his fellow members did have meetings with representatives from Humberside Police at the time to raise these various concerns.  By and large, the evidence from his mail bag suggested that people were no longer contacting him to complain about call handling issues or the amount of time that they spent getting through.  This was an improvement.  However, a large number of police forces were moving to an 0345 number rather than 0845 number which meant that it was, in effect, cheaper for residents to contact the police on a non-emergency number. One of things that worried him was that yes, a lot of these statistics were much improved and everybody involved in crime prevention could share the credit for that.  However, it was not necessarily all that easy to persuade people that what the figures were saying was actually representative of what was happening.  He was concerned that the costs of contacting the police on the 0845 number could potentially be either skewing the numbers of reported offences, due to the  whole issue about it not being worth calling because etc. or it would cost x, y, z etc., might be giving people reason to doubt the improvements that the figures said had happened?  Was the Humberside Force likely to move to an alternative number in the near future?

Mr. Hollis [Chief Constable, Humberside Police] replied, and referred to minutes of a Chief Officer group meeting where it showed that the Force was aware of the concerns, and provided a very quick analysis of the range of options.  The 0845 number was introduced in 2004 before his time.  The issues were that it was not well advertised or easy to find.  Sometimes it was actually on the vehicles but then it was not always easy to find a police vehicle when you wanted one.  The number was difficult to remember, and members of the public did not like the 0845 number and there was a perception that the Force was generating income from it.  There was a gentleman nationally that was raising that issue.  The Humberside Force had looked quite open minded at the range of options that it had.  It had looked at the 0345 number, but that did not address the issue of it being memorable.  Consideration had also taken place of a single emergency number for the whole country.  It had seemed a good idea to which the Government had put some initial seed funding in, gave it high prominence, but actually didn't support or fund it and therefore when the money ran out, it was never a success for the public at home.  Using an 0345 number instead of an 0845 number would not resolve the problem.  The Force had also looked at using an 0845 number [I think they mean 0800 number] because that was allegedly free.  However, it was not free if you were a mobile phone user, and had very confused call rates.  If you used a mobile phone, and a large number of people did, you could get hit by a whole variety of different charges using an 0800 number.  That would also not resolve the issue of it being a free call and common to everyone across Humberside.  It would cost Humberside Police about £75,000 a year more than currently to do that.  There was now a new idea to look at national non-emergency numbers to get a local number at a standard rate across the board.  That was now being researched as part of the Police's commitment to citizen focus and improving the quality of service that was given to communities.  The technology was moving on.  0345 was not a solution to the problem, 0800 wasn't the solution.  The Force was looking genuinely, with an open mind, at whether the other option, which was like a three or four digit number was worth pursuing.  There was not an immediate solution.  The Force was aware, and hurt to a certain degree, when members of the public starting saying that the force was fund raising, because it was not.   There were some slight differentials, for example, as Kingston Communications were slightly different from British Telecom.  He would pass on Councillor Robinson's comments about the much improved call handling and response.  Quite frankly, that was dire in 2005.  In the vast majority of cases far fewer people were now raising this issue, but there were still mistakes.  There was a much quicker and slicker response.  The Force was dealing with this in a much more professional and user friendly fashion.
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Reply #228 - Jun 14th, 2009 at 1:00am
 
Source: Cambridgeshire Police

http://www.cambs.police.uk/about/foi/classes/Minutes/FEB030209.pdf

Meeting of Force Executive Board
3 February 2009

[…]

3.1.3 Policing Pledge - re the printing of leaflets and the agreed change to the 0345 number from the 0845. The Head of Corporate Communications reported that the leaflets were being scheduled and the new telephone number would be included prior to the April changeover.

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Reply #229 - Jun 18th, 2009 at 12:25am
 
Source: Cambridgeshire Constabulary

http://www.cambs.police.uk/news/newsitem.asp?NewsID=5457

New non-emergency number to contact police

15/06/2009 10:42:49

A NEW non-emergency phone number for Cambridgeshire police launches today.

All non-emergencies in the county can now be reported by calling 0345 456 456 4.

The move will allow people with call packages which provide free local calls to benefit as 0345 numbers are classed as local calls.

The old 0845 number will remain operational alongside the new number until April 2011 to allow people time to get used to the new number.

Marketing materials for the force will be replaced with the 0345 number as old materials are used up over the next two years.

Cambridgeshire police are following in the footsteps of other forces who have already made the change to 03 numbers.

Force Control Room manager Ed Essad said: "The number has been introduced to give callers a better service.

"We have made the change in response to requests from the public for us to move to a number which is cheaper for many people to call.

"Although we are only changing the number by one digit we have made the decision to phase in the change over a matter of years.

"This means that the cost to the force will be minimal and it will give the public time to get used to the new number.

"The changes do not in anyway affect people calling 999 which they should continue to do in the case of an emergency."
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Reply #230 - Jun 21st, 2009 at 1:15pm
 
I have recently received a paper from the Gwent police delivered to all houses in the area, Safer Gwent Policing Summery Edition.  An article inside states:
Gwent Police introduce new non-emergency phone number, you can now use a special non-emergency telephone number to contact Gwent Police.  When it's less urgent than 999 phone 101.
It gives details of when to use this number:

"The type of incident that can be reported using the new 101 number include vandalism, graffiti, intimidation, drunk or rowdy behaviour, drug related and anti social behaviour.
The service is designed to improve the delivery of non-emergency services while freeing up the 999 service to handle emergency incidents.
The Wales wide initiative, set up by the four Welsh police forces, provides people with the chance to gain direct access to advice and action on safety and anti-social behaviour issues.
Calls will cost 10 pence (whether from a mobile or landline) and will be recorded for training monitoring, quality monitoring and public safety purposes.  If the call is deemed an emergency it will be immediately routed as a 999 call."

I had thought 101 had disappeared but it appears to have been resurrected here in Wales.


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Reply #231 - Jun 21st, 2009 at 3:44pm
 
redant wrote on Jun 21st, 2009 at 1:15pm:
I had thought 101 had disappeared but it appears to have been resurrected here in Wales.

It was introduced across all four forces in Wales a few months ago and likewise in Hampshire. See the thread here.

It shows how disjointed all this is as they haven't even bothered to update the 101 website to reflect it.
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Reply #232 - Jun 21st, 2009 at 10:29pm
 
Source: West Midlands Police Authority

http://www.west-midlands-pa.gov.uk/documents/committees/public/2009/07_Financean...

Finance and Resources Committee
28 May 2009
NON EMERGENECY PHONE NUMBER UPDATE
REPORT
Report of the Chief Constable

PURPOSE OF REPORT
1. To update the committee on the developments with the 0300/0345 issue.

BACKGROUND
In November 2009 a report was submitted outlining the issues with the current 0845 number and the options to move forward. Since that report several suppliers have been contacted and the options have been reviewed in light of recent improvements in the cost of providing these numbers. Consideration has also been given to a possible 3 digit number which has proved to be unfeasible, unless the force enters into the 101 Single Non Emergency Scheme (SNEN) with the councils.

West Midlands Police aims to be easily accessible by all members of the public and therefore wishes to remove all potential barriers to communications. For some members of the public having to pay to call the force, often in an attempt to help us in our duties, could be seen as such a barrier. In addition there is a small but growing trend for some people to misuse the 999 facility because these calls are free. These calls place an extra demand on the 999 call takers that could more properly be dealt with by the 0845 team.

CURRENT POSITION
4. WMP is in contract with Telewest for provision of the existing 0845 number. The Initial period expires at the end of December 2009 and can subsequently be extended for up to a further 3 years. The force can vary the existing contract to cater for provision of an 03 number in place of 0845-113-5000.

5. If moving to an 03 style number is agreed then consideration should be given to selecting a new number that is more memorable than the current 0845-113-5000. 0345-113-5000 is currently reserved for the force to use. Consultation with Operational Communications and the Press Office will continue to establish the best route for the force to take.

IMPLICATIONS FOR CHANGING THE 0845
6. The existing number is well publicised and any change will need to be carefully managed. It is expected that a period of parallel running will be necessary to minimise disruption to the public and the force.

7. All leaflets, phone book entries, publicity material (for schools etc) and computer systems that generate a form showing the existing number will need to be changed.

FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS
8. The force will lose the revenue share from Telewest and will incur charges that will be based on the number of incoming calls and their duration. Based on last year's call statistics and the current pricing of Telewest the additional cost to WMP is estimated to be around £52,000 pa. This can be contained within the overall revenue budget.

[…]

RECOMEMNDATION
11. The committee is asked to note the report.

Phillip Gormley
Acting Chief Constable
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Reply #233 - Jun 21st, 2009 at 10:38pm
 
Or, of course, they could have a geographic number and route it around their own internal network.

Cheshire Police manage this with 01244 numbers for the Police Authority being delivered in Northwich (01606). The fact that the outgoing 01606 number returns a "number not recognised" announcement is, perhaps, another topic. Or is CLI spoofing now de rigueur for the Police?
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Reply #234 - Jun 22nd, 2009 at 1:19pm
 
Dave wrote on Jun 21st, 2009 at 10:29pm:
BACKGROUND
In November 2009 a report was submitted outlining the issues with the current 0845 number



Do these people have a time machine?
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Reply #235 - Jun 22nd, 2009 at 5:45pm
 
Dave wrote on Jun 21st, 2009 at 10:29pm:
Source: West Midlands Police Authority
Based on last year's call statistics and the current pricing of Telewest the additional cost to WMP is estimated to be around £52,000 pa. This can be contained within the overall revenue budget.

It must be noted that this cost of £52,000 is, barring profiteering by Telewest, being incurred by caller's telephone providers and passed on to them in some way. All things being equal, this cost is therefore being carried by those who call the Police, rather than the Council Tax payers of the West Midlands local authorities.

Tanllan wrote on Jun 21st, 2009 at 10:38pm:
Or, of course, they could have a geographic number and route it around their own internal network.

The differential costs and any technical issues associated with this approach would have to be considered alongside the fact that "The West Midlands" does not have a dialling code. Any geographic number would not appear "local" to callers in some parts of the area covered. (This is notwithstanding the fact that the vast majority of callers would not incur any additional cost.)

Tanllan wrote on Jun 21st, 2009 at 10:38pm:
Cheshire Police manage this with 01244 numbers for the Police Authority being delivered in Northwich (01606).

Perhaps this demonstrates the difficulty encountered by a regional or county authority in choosing what geographic code to use. The configuration of local charging areas is not so much of an issue as it was, however there is an issue of perceived locality that is significant in many parts of the country.

Tanllan wrote on Jun 21st, 2009 at 10:38pm:
The fact that the outgoing 01606 number returns a "number not recognised" announcement is, perhaps, another topic. Or is CLI spoofing now de rigueur for the Police?

"CLI spoofing" is regarded by Ofcom as an example of "persistent misuse of a telecommunications network or service" (alongside making silent calls). Its Statement of Policy on use of its powers includes the following:

Quote:
the deliberate sending of an inauthentic or misleading number from which it is not possible to identify the caller and which does not enable the recipient of a call to return a message is a form of misuse. This is without prejudice to a caller's right to preserve their anonymity by withholding their number.
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Reply #236 - Jun 22nd, 2009 at 9:30pm
 
Source: Humberside Police Authority

http://www.humberside-pa.org.uk/downloads/PanelMins/Scunthorpe_North_Mins_120509...

Scunthorpe North Police Authority Neighbourhood Panel
Minutes of the Public Meeting held on 12th May 2009 at the Berkerley Junior School

[…]

5. Open Forum – [some questions have been abridged and condensed due to their length]

[…]

Q - When are we getting a free number for non-emergency calls like the 999 number for emergency calls, the premium rate number costs a lot and some people will not use it.
JY - There are no plans for another number, this is the option and it is well known now. [Explanation of call centre and invite to anyone to visit].
RG - I can give more information having heard the DCC explain this to Authority Members. The 0845 number was chosen primarily because the cost of giving out a free number such as 0800 would cost the force hundreds of thousands of pounds, this is money they would have to take from their budget for police officers etc. Therefore they chose the least cost option for both the public and force, which was an 0845 number with a minimum cost of about 3p per minute. Some forces have got a premium charge of 25p a minute; Humberside did not want to charge the public this. The Govt did have an experiment on a number 101 for non-emergencies but this has been shelved due to complexity and cost for now, so this is what we have.
MA - I was on the Authority when the number was chosen and out of all the options it was the best we could get.
Q - I have told people to ring Crimestoppers rather than the 0845, that’s okay isn’t it?
JY - I would encourage people to ring Crimestoppers for certain information, but because it works anonymously the information received is graded as poorer than if someone we knew had told us. We would still follow it up but maybe not as quickly etc. [JY then explained about the local Neighbourhood number and access to it]
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Reply #237 - Jun 28th, 2009 at 8:27pm
 
Source: Private Eye

http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=in_the_back

POLICE 5: DON’T CALL US…

TELEPHONING the police can be expensive enough since most forces switched to using 0845 numbers for non-emergencies. Now two forces are refusing even to divulge their local phone numbers, claiming that if people know how to contact them, they won’t be able to fight crime properly.

When many forces introduced the non-geographic numbers several years ago, there was little or no extra cost to callers. These days, however, calls to 0845 numbers generally fall outside the free or cheap call charges on landline or mobile phone contracts. Such calls can be particularly expensive if callers are held in a queue. Many businesses use 0845 numbers (and their expensive 0870 cousins) to make money under revenue sharing arrangements with the phone company.

Northumbria Police have already dropped their 0845 number in favour of an 03-prefixed non-emergency number, after calculating last year that it would be much cheaper for callers. In Wales, 101 acts as a memorable non-emergency number. But many other forces still use the expensive 0845 tariff.

‘More frivolous calls’

Slough-based campaigner Paul Janik submitted freedom of information requests to every police force in the UK, asking for their unpublicised normal rate phone numbers. The vast majority (46 out of 52 so far) and special forces such as British Transport Police were willing to have the numbers published. But two forces offered bizarre excuses.

West Midlands Police told Mr Janik that revealing their normal phone number “would, or would be likely to prejudice… the prevention and detection of crime, the apprehension or prosecution of offenders [and] the administration of justice”. West Midlands police authority recently discussed changing the number, but the chief constable’s report to the finance committee noted that the force earns £23,000 a year by using 0845 and that a free number might “encourage significantly more frivolous calls.” No change was made.

Meanwhile Dumfries and Galloway stated on behalf of chief constable Patrick Shearer that the information was exempt from the FoI act as publication of another non-emergency number for the force “would inhibit the force’s ability to maintain public confidence.”
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Reply #238 - Jul 2nd, 2009 at 11:04am
 
Source: West Yorkshire Police

http://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/files/docs/CT230309.pdf

Meeting: COMMAND TEAM
Venue: CONFERENCE ROOM A, ADMIN 1, FORCE HEADQUARTERS
Date: MONDAY 23 MARCH 2009 Time: 1.00pm


ITEM 6: TELEPHONE NUMBER FOR THE FORCE

Summary of Discussion:
ACC Mr Evans presented a paper with a recommendation to change the non-emergency telephone number for the force. ACC Mr Evans informed members that the migration to an 0345 contact number for the force had been discussed previously given the changing environment in respect of BT and other providers charging for 0845 numbers. There was wider discussion in respect of contact numbers for divisional helpdesks and whether there should be one contact number for the force. The introduction of a new telephony system was also considered and whether the use of autoattendant facility was the way forward. It was felt that the decision on changing the non-emergency telephone number should be part of a wider overarching telephony strategy. ACC Mr Evans agreed to bring back to Command Team a paper which addressed the issues raised.

Decision:
For an overarching telephony strategy to be developed and presented to Command Team for consideration.

Action by:
ACC Mr Parkinson and ACO Mr Brook.

By When:
Future Command Team Meeting.
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Reply #239 - Jul 4th, 2009 at 11:52pm
 
11 UK police forces have moved away from 0845 numbers. 23 out of 52 still use 0845 revenue sharing telephone numbers.

Geographical/03 (29)

Bedfordshire Police (01/02)
Cambridgeshire Constabulary* (03)
Central Scotland Police (01/02)
City of London Police (01/02)
Cleveland Police (01/02)
Derbyshire Constabulary* (03)
Dorset Police (01/02)
Durham Constabulary* (03)
Dyfed-Powys* (01/02)
Essex Police (03)
Greater Manchester Police (01/02)
Gwent Police (01/02)
Kent Police (01/02)
Leicestershire Constabulary (01/02)
Lincolnshire Police (01/02)
Lothian & Borders Police (01/02)
Merseyside Police (01/02)
Metropolitan Police (03)
Northamptonshire Police* (03)
Northumbria Police* (03)
Nottinghamshire Police (01/02)
South Wales Police (01/02)
South Yorkshire Police (01/02)
Staffordshire Police* (03)
Strathclyde Police (01/02)
Suffolk Constabulary (01/02)
Tayside Police* (03)
Warwickshire Police (01/02)
West Mercia Constabulary* (03)

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Changed from a 0845 number.



0845 (23)

Avon & Somerset Constabulary
Cheshire Constabulary
Cumbria Police
Devon & Cornwall Constabulary
Dumfries & Galloway Constabulary
Fife Constabulary
Gloucestershire Constabulary
Grampian Police
Hampshire Constabulary
Hertfordshire Constabulary
Humberside Police
Lancashire Constabulary
Norfolk Constabulary
North Wales Police
North Yorkshire Police
Northern Constabulary
Police Service of Northern Ireland
Surrey Police
Sussex Police
Thames Valley Police
West Midlands Police
West Yorkshire Police
Wiltshire Police
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