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Reply #195 - Mar 10th, 2009 at 1:07pm
 
The 0345 number for West Yorks Police is already in use as I dialled it over the weekend and got through successfully
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Reply #196 - Mar 11th, 2009 at 5:05pm
 
http://www.tivysideadvertiser.co.uk/news/4143095.Non_emergency_police_number/

Non emergency police number

9:40am Monday 23rd February 2009

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A new non-emergency number to contact police is being launched in the next few weeks.

Chief constable Ian Arundale told Cardigan town councillors last week that the 101 number was being launched in April.

Emergency calls would continue to use 999.

But the much maligned "call centre" 0845 number would also remain.

Cllr Wynne Evans, a retired police inspector, said he hated using the 0845 number.

"You have to answer all these questions just to get through to the police station – it drives me mad," he said.

But Mr Arundale said an extra 12 posts were being created at the Carmarthen call centre to cope with calls.

"I inherited a system which didn’t have enough people to make it work," he said.

He added that there was scope to link up with local authorities to enable the 101 number to be used to report environmental concerns such as abandoned cars.
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I have been lead to believe that Dyfed-Powys Police will be switching from 0845 to 03xx in April.  Undecided
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Reply #197 - Mar 11th, 2009 at 5:49pm
 
Source: Tayside Police

http://www.tayside.police.uk/newsitem.php?id=1615

Here for You on 0300 111 2222

09-03-2009

Tayside Police has a new non-emergency number.

It is 0300 111 2222.

People wishing to contact Tayside Police in a non-emergency situation, such as passing on information, or seeking advice from the Force should use this number to contact Tayside Police.

For emergencies people should continue to call 999.

The 0300 111 2222 number is easier to remember than the previous non-emergency number.

The previous contact number - 0845 600 5705 - was introduced last year as part of a national project. This project also introduced new call-handling systems that direct callers to the most appropriate location in the Force with the minimum delay.

Those systems will now support the 0300 111 2222 number.

OFCOM have released a set of numbers with the 0300 prefix for use by public sector organisations to resolve an issue where some telecoms providers charged more for customers to dial 08-prefixed numbers than they did for a number beginning with 01 or 02. Mobile phone users in particular were affected by this issue.

The 0300 111 2222 costs no more than a standard-rate call to a number beginning with 01 or 02 and Tayside Police would encourage people to save it to their mobile phones.

Remember, if you want to contact Tayside Police to give information or receive advice and assistance in a non-emergency situation contact 0300 111 2222.

In an emergency call 999 and the operator will put you through to the appropriate emergency service.


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Reply #198 - Mar 12th, 2009 at 10:07pm
 
Source: Dyfed-Powys Police Authority

http://www.dyfedpowyspoliceauthority.co.uk/documents/meetings/community/2008/31-...

Minutes of a Meeting of the Community Engagement & External Relations Committee
Held at the Police Authority Offices, Police Headquarters, Carmarthen On Friday 31st October 2008

For the benefit of new Members, the Deputy Chief Constable provided Members with background information on the set up of the Communication Centre and 0845 number. Plans were in hand to change the number to a 0345 number, over a transitional period, in line with other public sector bodies. The Force PR and Marketing Strategy would assist in publicising this new number.
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Reply #199 - Mar 17th, 2009 at 11:30pm
 
http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/content/news/story.aspx?brand=ENOnline&category=N...

Police cash in on non-emergency calls

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Norfolk police have pocketed more than £7,000 in four years by taking a cut from the cost of making non-emergency calls made to the force, figures revealed today.

In 2005 Norfolk Constabulary introduced its new 0845 456 4567 number, which is provided by Opal Telecom and works on a revenue sharing basis with the telephone company.

So, when people call up to report crimes or pass on information to help police solve crimes, the force makes money from those callers.

At peak times the force makes 0.25p per minute from each call made to the number, which can costs the caller anything up to 40p per minute, depending on where they are calling from, at which time and on which network.

The force does not make money at other times and does not pay for the use of the number.

In 2008 the force made just over £2,381 from the 376,244 calls, up slightly from the £2,247 made the previous year from 338.758 calls.

In 2007, telecoms regulator Ofcom introduced 03 - a non-geographic code that costs the same as 01/02 geographic numbers - and organisations have come under pressure to switch to that number - but Norfolk police today said they had no intention of doing so.

A spokesman for Norfolk police, said it had no immediate plans to change the number - and said for callers using BT the service is currently free.

He said: “Take up of the number has been overwhelming and the misuse of the 999 system has fallen as a result. The slight variation in cost to members of the public of calling the existing 0845 number, when compared to the corresponding 0345 number, is not dictated by the number itself but by the fees charged by the caller's service provider, indeed BT are currently not charging.

Therefore changing the constabulary's established non-emergency number would not be universally cost effective.

“We have also recently introduced a “returned call” system whereby anyone who calls us during a peak period seeking general advice or guidance will be called back by a communication officer at a later, more appropriate time and at no cost to the caller.”

Which? telecoms expert Ceri Stanaway said: “We think all organisations - in particular government departments - should switch their customer service and support phone numbers from expensive 0844, 0845, 0870, 0871 and 09 phone numbers, and use 03, 0800 or 01/02 codes instead - or at least as an alternative phone number.”

Norwich City Council has an 0844 number which costs 3p per minute from BT lines and Norfolk County Council's 0844 numbers cost 5p per minute from any landline. Neither authority makes money from those calls.
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See also http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1162645/Police-force-pockets-thousands-p...
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Reply #200 - Apr 1st, 2009 at 8:07pm
 
Source: Tivyside Advertiser

http://www.tivysideadvertiser.co.uk/news/4143095.Non_emergency_police_number/

Non emergency police number

9:40am Monday 23rd February 2009

A new non-emergency number to contact police is being launched in the next few weeks.

Chief constable Ian Arundale told Cardigan town councillors last week that the 101 number was being launched in April.

Emergency calls would continue to use 999.

But the much maligned "call centre" 0845 number would also remain.

Cllr Wynne Evans, a retired police inspector, said he hated using the 0845 number.

"You have to answer all these questions just to get through to the police station – it drives me mad," he said.

But Mr Arundale said an extra 12 posts were being created at the Carmarthen call centre to cope with calls.

"I inherited a system which didn’t have enough people to make it work," he said.

He added that there was scope to link up with local authorities to enable the 101 number to be used to report environmental concerns such as abandoned cars.
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Reply #201 - Apr 5th, 2009 at 2:03am
 
Source: North West Evening Mail

http://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/police_defend_profit_from_calls_made_to_stations_1...

Police defend profit from calls made to stations

Last updated 11:52, Saturday, 04 April 2009

CUMBRIA’S police pocketed more than £1,000 from phone lines that charge 40p a minute to call local police stations.

A total of 27 forces of the 52 in the UK use the 0845 number, raking in more than £33,000 a year.

The county’s top cop says the number had significantly reduced the amount of calls to 999 to report minor incidents, leaving it freed up for emergencies.

When 0845 numbers were introduced in 2003 they cost the same as a local call, but there has been a series of increases since then.

West Midlands Police received 1.75m calls on the 0845 line in 2008, generating more than £23,000.

Wiltshire Police made £4,800 last year from 400,000 calls and at the bottom end of the scale Cheshire Police pocketed £1,616 from more than 250,000 calls.

Cumbria received 402,537 calls amassing in £1,053.

The profits are divided between the forces and the phone companies including BT and Opal Telecoms.

The lines also slashed police costs, as people are put through to a central call centre requiring fewer workers.

Cumbria Constabulary say the cash is put towards improving services.

Fierce criticism has meant some forces, such as the Metropolitan Police, have switched to 03 number which cost the same as a local call.

Cumbria’s Chief Constable Craig Mackey defended the use of the number.

He said: “The launch of the 0845 number in 2005 has made it easier for the public to contact us for information and to report minor incidents.

“Since then it has significantly reduced the volume of calls we receive via the 999 number, enabling the specially trained 999 call operators to deal only with emergency calls. At the time it was introduced, dialling the 0845 number cost the same as making a local call.

“Costs of calls from landlines to the Constabulary using this number vary, depending on the time of day.

“But on average will cost less than 4p per minute – which is the same if not less than that of a standard call.

“The cost of a call from a mobile phone may be higher than this figure depending on the network you are calling from.

“The profit made from the number is relatively small in comparison to other UK forces.

“Between March 2007 and February 2008, a profit of £676.78 was made from a total of 155,698 calls received.

“This goes towards enhancing the service provided to the public.”
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Reply #202 - Apr 5th, 2009 at 12:46pm
 
Hi and what you guys do not realize that you cannot ring either 0845 or 03xx numbers from abroad. Luckily my archives had the proper number for norfolk police which is their actual phone contract number 01603 768769. To try to find the numbers of the police get out old documents, papers etc from say 10 years ago and that should work. So for example the old number for a still open local police station is still their number but it will transferred to the head office.
  I have today complained to N and N about this and put their number on the 0870/0845 list. I suggest that the alternative is to contact the control room locally before going abroad and get the number for them. This will be given.
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Reply #203 - Apr 5th, 2009 at 3:31pm
 
rinfrance wrote on Apr 5th, 2009 at 12:46pm:
Hi and what you guys do not realize that you cannot ring either 0845 or 03xx numbers from abroad. …

Some providers allow these numbers to be dialled and some do not. You evidently have a provider that does not.

We understand that UK 0845 numbers are not diallable from most overseas providers. Hopefully in time, UK 03 numbers will become available from abroad.

rinfrance wrote on Apr 5th, 2009 at 12:46pm:
…Luckily my archives had the proper number for norfolk police which is their actual phone contract number 01603 768769. To try to find the numbers of the police get out old documents, papers etc from say 10 years ago and that should work. So for example the old number for a still open local police station is still their number but it will transferred to the head office.

The underlying alternative number to Norfolk Constabulary's 0845 456 4567 number is 01953 424242. This was provided to me via a Freedom of Information response.

rinfrance wrote on Apr 5th, 2009 at 12:46pm:
…I have today complained to N and N about this and put their number on the 0870/0845 list. I suggest that the alternative is to contact the control room locally before going abroad and get the number for them. This will be given.

What is "N and N"???  Huh Huh
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Reply #204 - Apr 5th, 2009 at 3:54pm
 
I would guess Norwich & Norfolk
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Reply #205 - Apr 5th, 2009 at 5:01pm
 
Source: Gloucestershire Police Authority

http://www.gloucestershirepoliceauthority.co.uk/Full%20Authority%20-%20Dec%2008%...

GLOUCESTERSHIRE POLICE AUTHORITY
FEEDBACK FROM VISIT TO THE APA Conference 11th/12th November 2008

Venue Gateshead

Summary of key points from presentations / information
• BT (a sponsor) had information about the 0300 number, their hosted voice service and translation service.
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Reply #206 - Apr 5th, 2009 at 5:14pm
 
Source: Nottinghamshire Police Authority

http://www.nottinghamshire.police.uk/npa/files/meetings/55/H%20-%20%20Capital%20...

JOINT REPORT OF THE CHIEF CONSTABLE AND THE TREASURER

Meeting Police Authority
25 February 2009

[…]

Customer Service Desk. Additional expenditure for the delivery of the Customer Service desk is as follows:

[…]

- Single Non Emergency Number (SNEN). Originally planned for the launch of the two control rooms in 2001 but delayed first by the defunct 101 initiative and then by the issues with the 0845 service, this will now be launched with an 0300 number. This will cost £25k to implement and then £25k a year to support.

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Reply #207 - Apr 5th, 2009 at 5:54pm
 
Source: Cambridgeshire Police


http://www.cambs.police.uk/about/foi/classes/Minutes/FEB010508.pdf

Meeting of Force Executive Board
1 May 2008

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10.5.1 0345 Number - The Head of ICT reported that this facility did not cost the Force any money and it allowed callers to phone in to the Force at local call rates. A series of numbers had been reserved and a paper was due to be presented to both the Police Authority and the next FEB meeting. It was noted that this might replace the 0845 number which currently attracted a number of different charge rates depending upon the callers' supplier.

[…]


http://www.cambs.police.uk/about/foi/classes/Minutes/FEB030608.pdf

Meeting of Force Executive Board
3 June 2008

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7.7.1 Review of Single Non-Emergency Number - the DCC indicated that the Force would be moving towards the 03 number.
It was noted that there should be a process to divert the calls coming into the Force on the 0845 number to any new 03 number.

7.7.2 Recommendation - the Board approved the recommendation to move towards the 03 number.

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Reply #208 - Apr 5th, 2009 at 10:45pm
 
http://www.cambs-pa.gov.uk/user_files/meeting/meeting249/PA%2030.06.08%20item%20...

Agenda Item: 12 – Marked “To Follow”
To: Cambridgeshire Police Authority
From: Chief Executive
Date: 30th June 2008
REPORT OF THE COMMITTEES AND PANELS

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Review of Single non emergency number (0845) – Update

4.13 The Constabulary discussed the progress made to assess the use of the single non emergency number (0845). This included discussions with Ofcom and British Telecom to potentially create a new 03 number.

The Constabulary was currently considering the pros and cons of either retaining the existing number or changing to a new 03 or 01 number, and agreed to keep the Panel updated on all future developments.

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Reply #209 - Apr 11th, 2009 at 12:17pm
 
Dave wrote on Feb 10th, 2009 at 3:40pm:
Source: "Humberside" Police

http://www.humberside.police.uk/

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An 0845 number is a non-geographic number and are appropriate tariffs for government use but it should be noted that these can be charged at up to 5p per minute (from BT lines, other operators may be higher.)  

Humberside Police do not make a profit out of any call for service or information


It is "appropriate" that government uses numbers which provides revenue share and thus does not allow for calls to be priced the same as any "local" call.

In short, they are public sector services and in their own arrogance, think that they can use revenue sharing numbers to derive as much "benefit" as possible from citizens.

"Humberside" Police has now changed the message on its homepage:

Quote:
An 0845 number is a non-geographic number but it should be noted that these can be charged at up to 5p per minute (from BT lines, other operators may be higher.)   It should be noted that calls from mobile telephones may be significantly higher

Humberside Police do not make a profit out of any call for service or information
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